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    So. How do you do a controlled ground loop? Isn't/ wasn't that the question?

    I had to do one as I couldn't stop in time or go around and had to do one in my head. Brakes weren't working to full potential and a short runway. Hit rudder one way then hard the other to force the tail around. Stoped with no damage but would have been too long and in the crap if I didn't. Isn't this what the topic was about. Controlled ground loop?

    Yea should have gone around earlier but didn't. So don't hit me for not doing that. I already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Heres one for you. What’s wrong with this picture?

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    Jesus take the wheel.

    Looks like with the tail wheel broken free it’s about to go around pretty quick


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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Heres one for you. What’s wrong with this picture?

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    Who's flying the plane? Someone in the front seat has both hands on the V-brace. Is someone in the back seat driving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    Who's flying the plane? Someone in the front seat has both hands on the V-brace. Is someone in the back seat driving?

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    Uh, nope.

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    I do that at uncontrolled fields to check for arriving traffic before takeoff. Old habit. Do they still teach it?

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    See how he is leaning to the left to see if the brake is dragging and causing the tire to stop rotation early (old A&P trick).
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    Wonder where the Go-Pro flick is posted? Camera on top of windshield.

    Actually like many I had a close one a few years back in my PA18. Mechanic's helper had bled and pre-loaded the diaphragm masters. After the third touch and go on grass strip the left hot brake expander decided it was done contracting. Pulled left and started loop, skidded on grass then hit sticky gravel. Tried full power briefly against up elevator to hold the tail down then right brake. Slow motion tip forward then power off and...well, there's something special about staring at the ground with the tail up/spinner down. Once the forward momentum got my feet heavy and forward on the pedals there was no pulling them back.

    Jumped out and pulled the tail down. We towed the plane to the hangar and left a skid trail behind the left wheel.

    Oh well, got that maneuver perfected and maybe out of my system for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Heres one for you. What’s wrong with this picture?

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    Control inputs are with the turn, instead of against it. And the plane in the background looks like it's setting on its belly rather than its gear?
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    This is for those that have and those that will: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOi_79feThQ

    Edit: Note the flags whipping at the end.

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    It was ordained from the beginning! Howling left cross. No cross controls. Touch down on both mains. No increased left aileron and right rudder. He got off easy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    This is for those that have and those that will: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOi_79feThQ

    Edit: Note the flags whipping at the end.

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    Perhaps Deceiving but the flags make it look like a downwind landing.




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    Left quartering maybe. Another error in judgement.
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    In MTVs post it appears like a downwind landing. The video seems to prove it. Also one of those "inbetween" landings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    This is for those that have and those that will: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOi_79feThQ

    Edit: Note the flags whipping at the end.

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    Wow. I would have jumped out and took a bow like Mr. Franklin. I was once told what makes a good carpenter is how well you cover up the screw ups. Think that would apply here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub Special Ed View Post
    Wow. I would have jumped out and took a bow like Mr. Franklin.
    In order to take credit for the maneuver, you have to be the one flying/controlling the aircraft. In this case the aircraft seemed to be the one in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryB View Post
    In order to take credit for the maneuver, you have to be the one flying/controlling the aircraft. In this case the aircraft seemed to be the one in control.
    I belive you are correct. Probably had a diffucult time climbing out with his seat cushion sucked up anyway.
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    I keep going back to that picture of him with both hands hanging onto the airframe.
    After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Misch View Post
    Control inputs are with the turn, instead of against it. And the plane in the background looks like it's setting on its belly rather than its gear?
    The runway is built up higher than the parking ramp. Either that or it has collapsed gear and the man standing in front of it has been cut in half at the belly button.
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