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Thread: N'Olstein Discsn: What to be legal in 180HP amphib

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    N'Olstein Discsn: What to be legal in 180HP amphib

    Another New Holstein Aviation Lawyer topic.

    What proficiency is alson needed with a SELS
    when flying a 180HP Cub or Huskie on amphibs:

    1. Complex AC???
    2. High performance AC???
    3. SELS only???

    Has anyone got verse and chapter.

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    Joe, I believe just the complex endorsement.
    a high performance airplane is an airplane with an engine of more than 200 HP. i.e. 201 or more...
    (14CFR 61.31)

    Hope this helps...
    Ki

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    I thought "complex" was an aircraft with constant speed prop, cowl flaps, and retractable gear.

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    From what I've been told by an FAA examiner I log complex when flying anything with a constant speed prop and retractable gear. Cowl flaps are not a requirement. I was interested to learn they count water ruders and retract skis as retractable gear. That means constant speed prop on even stright floats counts as complex time.

    Don't quote me. I'm just going by what one person told me. I didn't call down to Oklahoma to verify it.

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    seaplanes

    In the case of a seaplane, complex is needed if it has constant speed and flaps regardless of whether or not it has retractable "gear". See FAR 61.31e 1.
    If you keep reading beyond...High perf. requires more than 200hp...so I would assume not an issue with 180hp.
    I would assume the SES is a must....plus its a blast....almost as fun as um....SUPERCUBS on big wheels.
    lls

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    Re: seaplanes

    Quote Originally Posted by cafi19
    See FAR 61.31e 1.
    lls
    Thanks Ms L,
    That's what I was looking for.

    e) Additional training required for operating complex airplanes. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (e)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a complex airplane (an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller; or, in the case of a seaplane, flaps and a controllable pitch propeller),


    So if a fixed pitch .... no complex is required

    Joe

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