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airwolf7ac
10-30-2013, 12:02 PM
Hey all,

I am getting ready to install new bottoms on my 1500's for my PA11. I have the plastic but need to order new bungees. Wondering if someone on here knows what diameter to order and the approximate length. I would measure the old ones but they are just reg black rubber bungees doubled up and look awful.

Thanks in advance,

Kaleb

JP
10-30-2013, 12:45 PM
Bungees bad. Go to Home Depot and get a medium set of garage door springs. You will be much happier.

beaver18
10-30-2013, 08:06 PM
Whatever you do get the cold weather one if you can get them ,garage door spring for 1500 is a bit overkill ,you need 1/2 dia shock cord and for the lenght it depend on your crust cutter lenght .

3Point
11-16-2013, 12:21 PM
Hey all,

I am getting ready to install new bottoms on my 1500's for my PA11. I have the plastic but need to order new bungees. Wondering if someone on here knows what diameter to order and the approximate length. I would measure the old ones but they are just reg black rubber bungees doubled up and look awful.

Thanks in advance,

Kaleb

I have a set of 1500's that need bottoms also.....what plastic are you referring to? I would like to update these for use.

beaver18
11-18-2013, 07:42 PM
Kaleb give a call to Trickair they have what you need they use 1/2 cold weather about 20" long with locking s/s rings at the end.

cubdriver2
11-18-2013, 10:57 PM
I just measured mine. Total length is 39". Thats cable eye to bungee spring eyelet. 7" crust cutter and 32" bungee including eye.I get 1/2" bungees from Spruce. I don't like the hog rings they sell you, I make my own from 12 penny nails.

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy21/cubdriver2/002_zps760676d6.jpg (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/cubdriver2/media/002_zps760676d6.jpg.html)

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy21/cubdriver2/004_zps2f657cfa.jpg (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/cubdriver2/media/004_zps2f657cfa.jpg.html)



Glenn

airwolf7ac
11-19-2013, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the replies, I've purchased the 1/2 in bungee and hog rings from spruce, - don't know what penny nails are so I will have to google that if the hog rings don't work out. Turns out I'm short on the HMWV plastic and can only order 1/8 or 1/4. What thickness is better? I've read 3/16th is the way to go but it would be a specialty order and more expensive. Thanks.

cubdriver2
11-19-2013, 08:34 AM
I put 1/8" uhmw on these skis 12 years ago, about 300 hrs and it still working fine including a bunch of no snow landings.

Glenn

Pacerfgoe
11-20-2013, 01:46 PM
Where can you get those locking bungee ends? I've been looking for them and can't find....

3Point
11-20-2013, 09:17 PM
I put 1/8" uhmw on these skis 12 years ago, about 300 hrs and it still working fine including a bunch of no snow landings.

Glenn
Glenn, Did you use the stock Ski width with your uhmw bottoms?

cubdriver2
11-20-2013, 09:42 PM
Glenn, Did you use the stock Ski width with your uhmw bottoms?


Yes, if your going bigger then the original bottom I think you would want to go thicker then 1/8

Glenn

3Point
11-20-2013, 09:47 PM
Yes, if your going bigger then the original bottom I think you would want to go thicker then 1/8

Glenn
Is the uhmw layered against the existing aluminum bottom, or a replacement for the aluminum?

cubdriver2
11-20-2013, 10:07 PM
Where can you get those locking bungee ends? I've been looking for them and can't find....

I have a few sets that I've acquired over the years. When your in older hangars pay attention to whats hanging on the walls, most times when the owner sees that I know what they are I end up going home with them. I once bought a set of A1500 skis that were almost totally corroded into dust for 40 bucks just to get the 4 bungee ends hanging from the rotten cords. About 6 years ago someone had 500 NOS ones on ebay, I called and tried to buy 40 of them and the owner didn't want to split them up. I called Aero Ski and tried to talk them into buying them but if I remember right they never sold.

Glenn

cubdriver2
11-20-2013, 10:20 PM
Is the uhmw layered against the existing aluminum bottom, or a replacement for the aluminum?

It's rivited every inch to the edge of the existing aluminum bottom. I put the skeg back on by drilling and tapping the aluminum bottom every 4 " for fine thread countersunk machine screws and locktite them

Glenn

beaver18
11-21-2013, 12:55 PM
give a call to Trickair they have it all ,the s/s locking ends ,the cold weather bungee all made up and ready to go and probably at a desent price...

cubdriver2
11-21-2013, 02:20 PM
give a call to Trickair they have it all ,the s/s locking ends ,the cold weather bungee all made up and ready to go and probably at a desent price...

I looked at the Trickair site. They use the open " C " shaped bungee ends ends. They sometimes unhook.

Glenn

beaver18
11-21-2013, 09:36 PM
Not anymore they use the locking one and its made of s/s ,i had both model the c shape one and now with there cold weather bugee they have the locking model

cubdriver2
11-21-2013, 11:11 PM
Not anymore they use the locking one and its made of s/s ,i had both model the c shape one and now with there cold weather bugee they have the locking model

Pictures?

Glenn

cruiser
11-22-2013, 08:43 AM
Google "hog rings" http://www.versalestore.com/c309/Hog-Rings.htm Aircraft bungee does not fold quite this easily. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNYI7Zryd4 I would think 2 c clip hog rings with the openings staggered 180 degrees would hold if the inside of the hook/clip is not worn oversize and the rings is not overly compressed? Good luck. Jim

beaver18
11-23-2013, 08:28 PM
Sorry glenn for my late responce( deer hunting is taking my time ,the critter are hard to catch this year) ,they are exact same thing as yours but made of s/s ( i will need to learn how to post pic )

cubdriver2
11-23-2013, 08:42 PM
Sorry glenn for my late responce( deer hunting is taking my time ,the critter are hard to catch this year) ,they are exact same thing as yours but made of s/s ( i will need to learn how to post pic )

Email it to me and I'll see if I can post it. cowpieaero@yahoo.com

Glenn

Pacerfgoe
11-24-2013, 06:46 PM
give a call to Trickair they have it all ,the s/s locking ends ,the cold weather bungee all made up and ready to go and probably at a desent price...


Thanks for that....i'll give them a call

cubdriver2
11-25-2013, 11:41 AM
Sorry glenn for my late responce( deer hunting is taking my time ,the critter are hard to catch this year) ,they are exact same thing as yours but made of s/s ( i will need to learn how to post pic )

I like them.

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy21/cubdriver2/003_zpsa4b655ed.jpg (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/cubdriver2/media/003_zpsa4b655ed.jpg.html)

Glenn

beaver18
11-25-2013, 06:18 PM
And the good thing about them is they are made with cold weather shock cord ( orange thread running in opposite direction of the color thread for the date )

cubdriver2
11-25-2013, 11:23 PM
I bought 12 spring ends, I never had a problem with Spruces bungees, but have only tested them to -16 below.

Glenn

beaver18
11-26-2013, 08:12 AM
you are probably right on this with the small skis ,but i had some touble with the wheel skis they froze on me a couple of time with no big issue but now i just put the cold weather one .

Pacerfgoe
02-15-2014, 11:54 AM
Well just to finish up my hijack of this thread.....I called Jeremy at Trickair and he hooked me up with a half dozen of the bungee ends just like the ones pictured in post #23. Made out of Stainless they should last longer than I do.....

About $7.40 ea plus shipping.....6 cost me $70US shipped to Canada

akavidflyer
12-19-2014, 07:30 PM
I tried to go to the trick air site but it looks pretty deserted.. The phone number listed just went to a recording that the mailbox is not set up.. I would love to get my hands on 4 or so of the SS locking ends for the bungees as my spruce POS come off at times. I spent an hour walking around the lake looking for the damn bungee that got launched on take off when I smacked a snomachine track hiding under the 4" of fresh snow.

Does anyone have any info on how to get a set of the locking ends?

beaver18
12-20-2014, 06:41 AM
AKA ,if you tried on friday they dont work,but give them a call on the other days you may get an answer ( maybe :roll: )

Bill Rusk
12-20-2014, 07:16 AM
I thought I had heard Trick Air was out of business. Hope not.

Bill

akavidflyer
12-20-2014, 10:14 AM
They say on the website that they will no longer be offering new ski's, but will continue to support the old ones for now.. that was dated 10-29-14.

Thanks for the heads up on the Friday thing, I will call them back Monday.

cubdriver2
12-20-2014, 10:33 AM
This was on the skiplane.org site

Glenn




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