supercubc37
Registered User
Janesville,WI
You asked for it here it is. (In my opinion)
I have used over the years the poly fiber process, superflite system II, and on my own aircraft randolph dope. Of the the 3 I prefer the randolph.
I use a croix turbine and 2qt. pressure pot. I have sprayed dope with a binks suction cup gun and the problems you have is getting enough dope on the surface, big enough air compressor to keep up when spraying a large surface.
Now some specifics: I started with 2 brush coats if nitrate dope, 3 cross coats butyrate with silver, sand with 320 grit, 3 more cross coats silver, sand again, 1 and 1/2 cross coats white dope, sand, 2 and 1/2 cross coats color, sand, 1 and 1/2 cross coats final color. All silver and color is mixed to 24-26 seconds with a #2 zahn cup.( combination of retarder and thinner.) Final color is 40% retarder, 35% dope and 25% thinner it ends up being 19-20 seconds on a #2 zahn cup. The final color application with the croix is done as fast as I can spray.(large surface, smaller surface I wait just a bit.) What I mean is on a wing I spray on a coat of dope and go reload and spray again 3 times. What I ended up with is a shine that looks like it was rubbed. Tapes are visible and the weave is just filled.(yes I know too heavy for a working cub but I'll have to sacrifice.)
My opinion of the different systems: Poly fiber will be less labor but the finished product won't be as nice. A lot of guys around here used to do the build up with Poly fiber and then spray Randolph dope for color. That has all changed now that Poly fiber has changed their process manual. They say if you use any top coat besides their's that it renders the STC null and void. As far as aerothane I'm not a big fan of using Polyurathanes on fabric because of the cracking issue and the fact that it is a bitch to repair.
Superflite system II see above on polyurathanes. One other issue the dope versus polyurathane debate is your ability to operate a spray gun. You better have your head screwed on straight with the urathane or it will make you look like a fool in no time.
I hope that helps some of you.
Matt
PS I have 450 hours covering and painting my cub.
I have used over the years the poly fiber process, superflite system II, and on my own aircraft randolph dope. Of the the 3 I prefer the randolph.
I use a croix turbine and 2qt. pressure pot. I have sprayed dope with a binks suction cup gun and the problems you have is getting enough dope on the surface, big enough air compressor to keep up when spraying a large surface.
Now some specifics: I started with 2 brush coats if nitrate dope, 3 cross coats butyrate with silver, sand with 320 grit, 3 more cross coats silver, sand again, 1 and 1/2 cross coats white dope, sand, 2 and 1/2 cross coats color, sand, 1 and 1/2 cross coats final color. All silver and color is mixed to 24-26 seconds with a #2 zahn cup.( combination of retarder and thinner.) Final color is 40% retarder, 35% dope and 25% thinner it ends up being 19-20 seconds on a #2 zahn cup. The final color application with the croix is done as fast as I can spray.(large surface, smaller surface I wait just a bit.) What I mean is on a wing I spray on a coat of dope and go reload and spray again 3 times. What I ended up with is a shine that looks like it was rubbed. Tapes are visible and the weave is just filled.(yes I know too heavy for a working cub but I'll have to sacrifice.)
My opinion of the different systems: Poly fiber will be less labor but the finished product won't be as nice. A lot of guys around here used to do the build up with Poly fiber and then spray Randolph dope for color. That has all changed now that Poly fiber has changed their process manual. They say if you use any top coat besides their's that it renders the STC null and void. As far as aerothane I'm not a big fan of using Polyurathanes on fabric because of the cracking issue and the fact that it is a bitch to repair.
Superflite system II see above on polyurathanes. One other issue the dope versus polyurathane debate is your ability to operate a spray gun. You better have your head screwed on straight with the urathane or it will make you look like a fool in no time.
I hope that helps some of you.
Matt
PS I have 450 hours covering and painting my cub.