skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
There are bi-fold doors which have their own support structure and basically just fasten to the outside of the building. Wood frame would be fine. Also the one piece hydraulic doors will work on your hangar.
Remodeling a Hangar: Suggestions Requested
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Farmboy
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Middlebury, VT
Higher Power is a good example of a free standing hydraulic door.
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courierguy
MEMBER
Inkom, Idaho
You better look real good at adding a Hydro Swing type door to a wood hangar, for sure it can be done, I have one on my shop. When they are open they put a LOT of stress on the framing, up high. But I tied in things extra good when framing it, in anticipation of using the door. Even then, after a couple years, I had to add some steel flat bar to the door frame top center, running clear across the ceiling to the other end of the shop, as it was wanting to pull away. It was cracking my sheetrock ceiling, so I had a good heads up of the stresses involved, and saved it by the fix before things got worse. My other Hydro on my all concrete (earth sheltered) hangar is rock solid.
After reading about them on this site, I looked into the Higher Power doors. A friend tried one before me. Now I have a 55x18' clear higher door and love it. No stress on the building, max head clearance (my reason for wanting it), and works well. Lifts straight up first foot so ice at the bottom outside isn't a problem. We removed a bi-fold to install the Higher Power door.
I think Stewart hit the nail on the head. My hangar is commercial, on any given day smells like carb cleaner, solvent, paint stripper, paint.... I work on my airplanes there. Its my dream hangar.. But for others would not be suitable at all. I admire those hangars that look like living rooms.... living the dream for some folks.. I would need two hangars to have one like that, but I certainly understand those who choose that route. That's the beauty of it.. one can gather a bunch of ideas and then proceed to do whatever one wants.
I sure do gain from the input I read on this site though.
hotrod180
FRIEND
Port Townsend, WA
I have rolling doors on my own t-sized hangar and like them.
Don't want or feel the need for anything "better".
Among other reasons, although it doesn't happen often,
the first time the power's out and you need to open your bifold or hydro-swing doors,
you'll wish you still had rollers.
Charlie Longley
MEMBER
Anchorage, AK
You know how big of a guy I am since we’ve meet. Sometimes it takes almost all my strength to move my sliding doors. I am not getting any younger...
As an available option, a 12 volt battery will open our Higher Power door. Flip a switch and hook up the jumpers... Just so the info is out there...
Steve Pierce
BENEFACTOR
Graham, TX
I hate my cold air leaking, heavy sliding doors and looked at the Power Lift door after someone at our airport built a hanger with one. Impressive but not enough for me to spend the money. Maybe one day.
courierguy
MEMBER
Inkom, Idaho
I keep putting off rigging my two Hydro Swing doors with aux. hydraulic lines that would allow me to use my tractor's hydraulic system to open them, in case of a power outage combined with a need to get the plane out. I'll probably wait until an approaching wildfire takes out the grid power, and I lose the plane because I couldn't fly it away to safety, then do it for the next plane and hangar.
For this all to work, it'd have to flyable WX, I'd have to be there, etc.etc., my reasoning for not getting around to it. Point being hydraulic doors can be self powered with a little fore thought when the grid goes down in numerous ways. Non powered sliding track doors are fine, good enough anyway, until you get in severe climes, but a real PITA in snow and ice.
I think a one piece hydraulic door is about the best for not having airleaks, mine are anyway. They have 2" of urethane foam sprayed on the inside, and I was able to cut my mandoor and windows right where I wanted them, the main reason I went that route.
For this all to work, it'd have to flyable WX, I'd have to be there, etc.etc., my reasoning for not getting around to it. Point being hydraulic doors can be self powered with a little fore thought when the grid goes down in numerous ways. Non powered sliding track doors are fine, good enough anyway, until you get in severe climes, but a real PITA in snow and ice.
I think a one piece hydraulic door is about the best for not having airleaks, mine are anyway. They have 2" of urethane foam sprayed on the inside, and I was able to cut my mandoor and windows right where I wanted them, the main reason I went that route.
hotrod180
FRIEND
Port Townsend, WA
Maybe your door rollers & tracks just need some TLC.
Wooden buildings suffer some from warpage over time too,
so sometimes door-to-framing/siding clearances have to be adjusted.
mike mcs repair
Registered User
chugiak AK
maybe you need to add a helicopter to your fleet too....
SteveE
SPONSOR
Jenks, OK
WindOnHisNose
BENEFACTOR
Lino Lakes MN (MY18)
WindOnHisNose
BENEFACTOR
Lino Lakes MN (MY18)
Well, folks, it has been a bit of a frustrating experience thus far.
First, I came down with a pretty serious illness that had me on major narcotics and nothing to eat for 7 days in late September. It kicked my butt, I lost a lot of weight and strength (just got back to the gym this morning, in fact) and I wasn't able to practice medicine much less deal with the hangar.
Second, living on an airpark with a bunch of rules can be challenging...as many of you have told me. Access to the hangar has to be via the space between the owner's house and the property line and this makes it difficult if there are trees of significant size/height (which there are). This adversely impacted installing foam insulation. I had arranged for this to be installed today, as a matter of fact, and yesterday when they called to ask for access to the hangar they had not been made aware of the difficulty of driving a 30,000 lbs box truck that is 13 feet high, 9 feet wide and 36 feet long on the grass beside our house...they had assumed there is a driveway available to access the hangar (the gentleman who I met with at the hangar before my illness 4 weeks ago made the assumption re: access. I am now awaiting a call from a foamer who allegedly uses a trailer which can be pulled behind his pickup truck.
Then there is the juggling of the schedules of the plumber, the electrician, the sheetrock person, the steel person, etc. This project has given me a much greater appreciation for those of you who are contractors or who have been general contractors for your own projects.
Finished at this point is the wiring before the foam is installed. Finished is installation of 3 new access doors and 2 windows. Finished is framing for the bathroom/shower. Finished is the removal of an inoperative heater, and a new heater has been ordered. Plumbing will be accomplished within a week. Sheetrocking the upper 3/4 of the 13 ft walls will be finished at the end of next week, as will be installation of the metal walls. LED lights have been wired and will be installed next week.
The floor is another issue, in that it is not inexpensive to have linoleum tile removed and ground down to the cement, then polished vs epoxied. I am considering leaving the tile alone for now.
...and then there is my medical practice, which is in high gear and I have been struggling to catch up...
I'll shut off the whining now.
I did fly the super cub Sunday for the first time in over a month and it felt great!
I'll put some photos up soon. Thanks for the contributions here, as many of your suggestions are being/will be incorporated.
Take care,
Randy
First, I came down with a pretty serious illness that had me on major narcotics and nothing to eat for 7 days in late September. It kicked my butt, I lost a lot of weight and strength (just got back to the gym this morning, in fact) and I wasn't able to practice medicine much less deal with the hangar.
Second, living on an airpark with a bunch of rules can be challenging...as many of you have told me. Access to the hangar has to be via the space between the owner's house and the property line and this makes it difficult if there are trees of significant size/height (which there are). This adversely impacted installing foam insulation. I had arranged for this to be installed today, as a matter of fact, and yesterday when they called to ask for access to the hangar they had not been made aware of the difficulty of driving a 30,000 lbs box truck that is 13 feet high, 9 feet wide and 36 feet long on the grass beside our house...they had assumed there is a driveway available to access the hangar (the gentleman who I met with at the hangar before my illness 4 weeks ago made the assumption re: access. I am now awaiting a call from a foamer who allegedly uses a trailer which can be pulled behind his pickup truck.
Then there is the juggling of the schedules of the plumber, the electrician, the sheetrock person, the steel person, etc. This project has given me a much greater appreciation for those of you who are contractors or who have been general contractors for your own projects.
Finished at this point is the wiring before the foam is installed. Finished is installation of 3 new access doors and 2 windows. Finished is framing for the bathroom/shower. Finished is the removal of an inoperative heater, and a new heater has been ordered. Plumbing will be accomplished within a week. Sheetrocking the upper 3/4 of the 13 ft walls will be finished at the end of next week, as will be installation of the metal walls. LED lights have been wired and will be installed next week.
The floor is another issue, in that it is not inexpensive to have linoleum tile removed and ground down to the cement, then polished vs epoxied. I am considering leaving the tile alone for now.
...and then there is my medical practice, which is in high gear and I have been struggling to catch up...
I'll shut off the whining now.
I did fly the super cub Sunday for the first time in over a month and it felt great!
I'll put some photos up soon. Thanks for the contributions here, as many of your suggestions are being/will be incorporated.
Take care,
Randy
cubdriver2
FRIEND
upstate NY
Hey, cheer up Doc. What your doing to your hangar is just like childbirth. After all the stretching and remodeling happens that area will be a fun place to play at again someday ;-).....:roll:
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aktango58
FRIEND
18AA
Sounds like a severe case of BeenaroundEatonitis.
Cheer up, we have been waiting a couple of weeks for the first pour on our floor. The couple of days of weather we could pour we were not first on the list. The rest of the time have been rain. Snow is coming, don't know how long until we have to give up until spring.
I am seriously considering an epoxy floor. I like the light and cleaning ability.
It looks like that floor isn't so bad. It certainly looks like something you could live with while doing everything else and then do later.. Heck maybe have them peel up those few loose ones and replace just them? I know everyone has different standards, and I really do like perfect,...but one of the hardest things I've tried to learn in life is to learn to live with less than perfect. Not there yet but trying.. I think any clean bright smooth hangar floor is living the dream. It's all gravy from there.
Me living with my airplanes is my wife’s dream, not mine. The whole hangar house thing was her doing. My hangar is attached to the house. That makes it harder to deal with fumes and a gunky floor. Making our home a place she enjoys has always been my priority. Happy wife, happy life. Works for me.
I expect to have a furnished corner in the hangar with comfy seating and a TV and my elliptical. My vision of the ideal man cave. Make no mistake, I’ll enjoy a clean hangar, too.
Why, won't it fling parts far enough to suit you?
hotrod180
FRIEND
Port Townsend, WA
Neither is this one but it looks like it'd be a kick in the ass to fly around in.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...efly-flying-cars-urban-congestion/1726385002/
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