sj
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Plane lands on SC beach to take pictures, FAA says
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cubdriver2
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upstate NY
Run, Forrest, Run!
Glenn
Glenn
hotrod180
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Port Townsend, WA
From the linked story:
"The Post and Courier of Charleston reports the Federal Aviation Administration says the Piper PA-12 landed on a beach on Sullivan's Island on Saturday.
"The Post and Courier of Charleston reports the Federal Aviation Administration says the Piper PA-12 landed on a beach on Sullivan's Island on Saturday.
FAA spokesman Jim Peters cited police who said the pilot took pictures and then took off before officers could catch him."
No assumption of some sort of guilt going on there!
Hope he had 2" numbers.
Hope he had 2" numbers.
moneyburner
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Western Washington
This really pisses me off; clueless local reporters (and law enforcement?) immediately assuming that the law is being broken whenever something seen is outside their narrow realm of experience. I recall DHS or TSA issuing a notice some time ago to alert the authorities if citizens noticed “mud on tires or other evidence of off-airport activities”, as if that were a crime.
moneyburner
FRIEND
Western Washington
This entire premise wouldn’t have gotten past my high school journalism teacher. D minus.
Everybody knows you can't see squat over the nose...
Pete Schoeninger
MEMBER
By far the smartest thing that guy did was get the hell out of there!
I landed a 152 on a state hwy in WI for a Hardware store grand opening. No problems, landed just at dawn no one saw me. But when I went to leave 3 days later (sunday morning) a local yokel parked next to the airplane went ballistic because I could show him no proof I had OK to take off. So he had local dispatcher call FAA hotline. Nobody answered. Then he called County sheriff for backup. Dispatcher called ballistic cop back said no one answers at FAA hotline our next call would be to NTSB in Chicago, should I call that. Cop says yes. So now I have 4 cop cars around me now temporarily housed in the back seat of ballistic cop's squad car, and the NTSB standby guy in Chicago says hell no if he knew if anybody had permission to take off from a state hwy in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin. Most of the local cops just wanted to stop traffic and let me take off but after the ballistic guy got the NTSB involved I caved...returned the next day with a friend and pulled the wings off and trailered to a friend's private grass strip.
Our lawyer did some research, and the only thing I coulda been nabbed on of course was catch all FAR careless and reckless, and Wisconsin hwy ordinance requiring a permit for anyting over 8 ft wide.
ON some other occasions when john law approached I managed a quick get away when young, reckless, and a little quicker than I am now!
I landed a 152 on a state hwy in WI for a Hardware store grand opening. No problems, landed just at dawn no one saw me. But when I went to leave 3 days later (sunday morning) a local yokel parked next to the airplane went ballistic because I could show him no proof I had OK to take off. So he had local dispatcher call FAA hotline. Nobody answered. Then he called County sheriff for backup. Dispatcher called ballistic cop back said no one answers at FAA hotline our next call would be to NTSB in Chicago, should I call that. Cop says yes. So now I have 4 cop cars around me now temporarily housed in the back seat of ballistic cop's squad car, and the NTSB standby guy in Chicago says hell no if he knew if anybody had permission to take off from a state hwy in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin. Most of the local cops just wanted to stop traffic and let me take off but after the ballistic guy got the NTSB involved I caved...returned the next day with a friend and pulled the wings off and trailered to a friend's private grass strip.Our lawyer did some research, and the only thing I coulda been nabbed on of course was catch all FAR careless and reckless, and Wisconsin hwy ordinance requiring a permit for anyting over 8 ft wide.
ON some other occasions when john law approached I managed a quick get away when young, reckless, and a little quicker than I am now!
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scott the cub guy
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We practice this up here in Alaska, it's a just a part of our training. Nothing new and strange about landing on roads.....Scott
scott the cub guy
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Cub Special Ed
Registered User
MT/SD
I think theres a joke involving the movie "1941" here somewhere? When i was on a road once getting ready to leave, the dot pulled up. Turned all flashing lighs on, they were just trying to be nice and block traffic for me. Cops always have to tell reporters there investigating.
PerryB
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Chico, CA
Cannonball Run I think. It was Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLouise in a Maule.
nanook
MEMBER
northern alaska
I used to pick up the school teacher for Eagle on the Alaska Highway outside of Tok. This was the Fairbanks to Eagle scheduled mail plane (206). Alaska allows you to use the roads for landing strips when needed. Pretty common affair but we haven't yet become a "Nanny State"...
Steve Pierce
BENEFACTOR
Graham, TX
Reminds me of Murph landing in the field across from the convenience store in Rotan, Texas to get some beer and the local city cop pulled the same thing. He couldn't find anything to violate him for so Murphy grabbed his licence and told him it was getting dark and couldn't land at the lodge in the dark so when he figured out what he was getting him for let him know. Monday morning the FAA had nothing so that was the end of it.
Locals around here tell me I can land in the Brazos River all the time. I tell them to talk to the game warden and the Brazos River Authority and they will find out different. People have mindset that airplanes should only land on airports.
Pete Schoeninger
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I found most of the time when making off airport landings, I would notify cops etc ahead of time so there would be little surprises. Also I was airport mgr so if landing in local area to promote something I told any questioners that local control tower had given me permission.. Tower chief always went along with it but he of course had no authority to OK any landing at other than our local airport. Cops don't like surprises, and almost all of them have no knowledge of airplanes, FARs, etc.Did off airport landings to promote our flight school, sell 182s and super cubs (both of which could easily operate out of strips where 172s and Cherokees struggle.) Lotsa fun, never scratched anything - guess I was lucky.
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hotrod180
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Port Townsend, WA
This would probably work with a lot of people who don't know anything about aviation but are convinced that you're doing something wrong.
I'll have to remember that one.
RVBottomly
PATRON
Asotin County Washington (KLWS)
There might be a state law thing over there.
I know in Washington State, the beach near the Copalis River is actually a State "maintained" airport.
But if you land on any other beaches, except for emergencies, you could end up with the equivalent of a traffic ticket.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=352-37-170
I know in Washington State, the beach near the Copalis River is actually a State "maintained" airport.
But if you land on any other beaches, except for emergencies, you could end up with the equivalent of a traffic ticket.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=352-37-170
Too many rules. I remember talking with a very senior FAA official once. His quote was it was literally impossible to fly a legal flight based on the overwhelming number of regulations. I think it’s 91.103 that says a pilot must become familiar with ALL available information for that flight..... And then add in state and local regs..... try and read fish and game laws.... I think I’m getting too old for this....
Eddie Foy
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South Florida
Steve Pierce
BENEFACTOR
Graham, TX
That definition keeps going up.
cubdriver2
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upstate NY
txpacer
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Iowa Park, TX
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