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    Which cub is this?

    A close friend of the family died recently, he used to take a lot of slides
    this one is from 1960

    is this a pa11? I thought there were bumps on the cowl for 90 hp supercub and PA11?

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    Doesn’t look like enough slope in the windshield to be a PA 11


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    No flaps... I would guess PA-18-95

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    It’s a PA-18-95. The 11 and 90 hp 18s only had the cowl bumps if they had shielded spark plugs, as in if radio installed to suppress ignition noise. I suspect most of those bumps were added after the fact, since many of these planes were delivered without electrical systems.

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    The windshield V-brace is a giveaway....V on the PA-18 and upside down (⋏) on the PA-11.

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    yep. -18

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    It’s a PA-18-95. The 11 and 90 hp 18s only had the cowl bumps if they had shielded spark plugs, as in if radio installed to suppress ignition noise. I suspect most of those bumps were added after the fact, since many of these planes were delivered without electrical systems.

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    thanks Mike that clears it up. My dads 18-95 I learned to fly in had bumps on the cowl I thought they all did.
    I saw this really nice looking -11 for sale that has cowl bumps was throwing me off

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    Since you are all fine detectives, what was my friends new car in this pic? I can see it's a Chevy, gotta be in the 50s with that grill, that's all I have. Was a bit before my time

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    '58 Biscayne 4 door. Maybe a Delray

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    Looks like a station wagon. Could be a Yeoman.
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    58 Impala station wagon.

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    I want the engineer hat and sweet onesie he's wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouter View Post
    thanks Mike that clears it up. My dads 18-95 I learned to fly in had bumps on the cowl I thought they all did.
    I saw this really nice looking -11 for sale that has cowl bumps was throwing me off

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    Jim,

    It could be yours.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouter View Post
    Since you are all fine detectives, what was my friends new car in this pic? I can see it's a Chevy, gotta be in the 50s with that grill, that's all I have. Was a bit before my time

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    Looks like a pussywagon.


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    1958 chevrolet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouter View Post
    thanks Mike that clears it up. My dads 18-95 I learned to fly in had bumps on the cowl I thought they all did.
    I saw this really nice looking -11 for sale that has cowl bumps was throwing me off

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    Jim
    Like Gary said, easy way to tell is the windshield V brace, 18 has a V, 11 has a /\ brace

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    Like Gary said, easy way to tell is the windshield V brace, 18 has a V, 11 has a /\ brace

    Glenn
    not anymore !!!! except for the big numbers my 11 looks identical to that and there is another 11 here that looks just like that except for blue trim !! and both have v braces

    so now you have j-3's disguised as 11's and and 11's disguised as 18's
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    Atlee Dodge has an STC to replace the PA-11 /\ brace and top deck with PA-18 V components.

    Edit: Or at least used to...I bought it from them but never had it done.

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    didn't know there was an actual stc. I wouldn't rebuild an 11 any other way.
    I may be wrong but that probably won't stop me from arguing about it.
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    There was one back in the late 1990's available from Atlee Dodge for a top deck tubing conversion. I no longer own the plane or that paperwork and may well be wrong in what it allowed. Just a recollection. But yes the V would be better.

    Edit: There's some stuff here under J-3/PA-11 337 and FA: https://cubclub.org/printed/Effectiv...hnicalForm.pdf

    I had paperwork from Atlee he sent so maybe it was only a 337/FA. Over my pay grade now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouter View Post
    thanks Mike that clears it up. My dads 18-95 I learned to fly in had bumps on the cowl I thought they all did.
    I saw this really nice looking -11 for sale that has cowl bumps was throwing me off

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    Just slightly off topic but I am totally ignorant here.

    Could someone guage the size of those those tyres, they just "look" right for a SuperCub.

    Kind regards

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    29”s with plenty-o-air? Does look right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post

    Could someone guage the size of those those tyres, they just "look" right for a SuperCub.

    Kind regards

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    Maybe Mike will tell us. It's his 11 I think.

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    What about this one? Any guesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Kennedy View Post
    What about this one? Any guesses?

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    The first one looks like 26s the second 29s. Why I always recommend 26s for the 11. It's all about appearances.

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    Goodyear 25x11x4 are the perfect look on a 11, 4" wheel looks better then 6"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    Just slightly off topic but I am totally ignorant here.

    Could someone guage the size of those those tyres, they just "look" right for a SuperCub.

    Kind regards

    Stew
    26 inch Airstreaks.

    MTV
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    Goodyear 25x11x4 are the perfect look on a 11, 4" wheel looks better then 6"

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    Perhaps, but mine stops when I apply pressure to brake pedals.....

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    Grove makes a nice kit to modify stock 4" wheels to disc brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    Goodyear 25x11x4 are the perfect look on a 11, 4" wheel looks better then 6"

    Glenn
    I agree. That's what's on mine. would like to do the Grove conversion but then I'd be committed to old tires.

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    I believe Wayne Mackey rebuilt my -11 fuselage for the Johnson Brothers, with an -18 style topdeck. Front v braces are “V” like the -18.
    I think 26” AS’s look awesome on a J3, and the -11 can go either way, 26 or 29.
    I have 29’s, since it helps to compensate.

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    An interesting perspective about tires. Look at small tires vs big tires with covered gear vs uncovered gear.

    It seems that big tires “look” better to me when the gear is open, where smaller tires seem to fit the look with closed gear legs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
    I agree. That's what's on mine. would like to do the Grove conversion but then I'd be committed to old tires.

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    Yes, and all the 4 inch tires are obscenely expensive....may as well call ABW, if you’re spending that much anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    Goodyear 25x11x4 are the perfect look on a 11, 4" wheel looks better then 6"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Yes, and all the 4 inch tires are obscenely expensive....may as well call ABW, if you’re spending that much anyway.

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    I've got two sets of the 25's so I should be good for as long as I need them

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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
    I've got two sets of the 25's so I should be good for as long as I need them

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    When I first went to AK, we ran those tires on most of our Super Cubs. We even had AWB retractable wheel skis that'd been modified with longer arms to work with these tires. Wanta talk about heavy undercarriages?

    Hang onto those, and keep them out of the sun.....those things must be like gold these days. Of course, so are Airstreaks....

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    In 2015 I had 4 pair of 25's (one set on the PA-11), a box of 4" brake parts with intact bladders and pads (6-8 total), a pair of 8.00's on 4" rims, a few Landes fiberglass adapters and metal ones, and offered them for sale here and there. Nothing. Even had my neighbor who wanted to meet undesirables via social media advertise them. Nothing. Gave them away with the plane and the new owner Tom said he'd sell them somehow. Hope he did as he treated me very well. The bladders and pucks are expensive if bought new.

    My 4" Cub tire and wheel story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Perhaps, but mine stops when I apply pressure to brake pedals.....

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    Mike, they work just fine if you understand how they work

    C85 stroker 2350rpm runup facing downhill, 25" GY, stock brakes

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    They even hold my 31" up to 2200rpm



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