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    Slightly easier with the 3 panel method vs a single, but keep your mind open about 3 dimensions. Every 1/2" of protrusion into the cabin in the center panel (avionics stack) provides the room needed behind the panel, makes it an easier reach, and easier to see. As long as yokes with hands holding them clears, it's free space.

    A good tech can bend a single raised panel using one piece, or you can switch to 3 panels and mount the center out.

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    I'm not a Single Engine IFR type of guy, so we went straight VFR, but I will say, we love the G5, and If I were to go IFR Dual G5's would be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ View Post
    Here is that slippery slope I was talking about....

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    Yes but you did mention $10,000. Unless I'm way off in my labor hours and you do what labor you can you should be close to the $$$. The most time sensitive portion is the panel layout. You can do all of that.
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    My guy has the file saved for the early 180 panels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ View Post
    Thanks! I think I am going to skip the Y thing. I have had four people offer me Y yokes, one for free! Just seems like a "whole 'nother" can of worms.

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    back when I did that yoke/tree conversion 19? 17? years ago I was told the one main piece was over $4K thats why I looked around for used... you might want to take that person up on the free one!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    ....Replace the DG and the ILS indicator with the G-5. https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/57.../K10-00280-30# One instrument replacing two which is a lot easier to use when flying IFR.
    To the best of my knowledge, there's no glideslope indicator on the G5.
    ILS with no GS = localizer approach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    To the best of my knowledge, there's no glideslope indicator on the G5.
    ILS with no GS = localizer approach?
    https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/57...80-20#overview
    "The unit displays both vertical and lateral GPS/VOR/LOC course deviation when available. "

    http://static.garmin.com/pumac/190-01112-12_03.pdf
    Page 9, item 14. and Page 25
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    If you go to the Garmin page for the G5 and look at the pilot operating manual it shows vertical guidance on the far right side of the HSI and the far left side of the AH. It will not be shown if an ILS freq or a GPS approach with vertical guidance is not selected. The indicator diamond will be green for a ILS or magenta for a GPS indication, in the same fashion as the course deviation indication.

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    Well SJ, what’s it going to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joemcd View Post
    Well SJ, what’s it going to be?
    Bake Sale or Go Fund “Me Panel”
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    Ok folks, thanks for the awesome input (on line and off line). You have stimulated great contemplation which I am still in the midst of.

    I will report back with more questions, or when I figure it out...

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    Just sell the Super Cub to fund the full blown dream panel and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Just sell the Super Cub to fund the full blown dream panel and be done with it.
    Part of the problem is I don't have a "dream" about the panel. I just want it to be a lot more functional. If I had all the money you airplane mechanics have I still would not know exactly what I would want to do.

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    are you an old school round dial kind of guy or an early adopter that likes gadgets?

    I was looking at 180's back before I bought my Citabria. The biggest problem with the panels, IMHO, was that people would modify them but they wouldn't make much of a jump forward in layout/design so to a buyer it still looked like mumble jumble even though the seller was probably pretty impressed by it as it was being done. Having said that, I'd try to get it as close to center stack, left/right standards as possible.

    Isn't there a control yoke mod that updates the controls behind the panel so the layout can be updated? If I remember correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart23Sept View Post
    are you an old school round dial kind of guy or an early adopter that likes gadgets?
    I'm an old school guy who likes fancy gadgets made to look like they are old...
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    He is a gadget freak for sure.

    Let me know when you want to compare financial portfolios and evaluate each others possessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    He is a gadget freak for sure.

    Let me know when you want to compare financial portfolios and evaluate each others possessions.
    But you never have to beg the dogs to handle the controls of your own airplane!
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
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    is the panel in a 180 considered a structural element?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart23Sept View Post
    is the panel in a 180 considered a structural element?
    No

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    then you can do a lot more in the way of rearranging and redesigning the framework of it. but you guys probably knew that, i'm just the new guy trying to keep up.

    if you're handy SJ you can do a lot without spending a lot of $$ just on the panel materials to get the layout exactly how you want it. i did a new panel in an Aztec way back when and it made a huge difference.

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    What you see may not be structural but what lies right behind it is.
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    isn't that a later model panel? I don't see the interconnect crossing behind the panel and it looks like the center stack is already there

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    Order a CGR-30 and bring your check book when you drop it off.
    I have the panel file saved, you could probably put the 430 and audio panel or transponder where johns 530 is.




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    Raised by Wolves:

    Does your guy have a 180H panel(s) in his files? I am in the early stages of redo of my 1965 180H. I think I can get out of the vacuum business and I have some decent stuff to work with and some old junk to remove.

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