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    Eatons new and improved heat vent mod

    Just thought I would share with all you supercub folks that have helped me in the past.... Thanks S2D.... OK thats it.

    For all you that freeze in the back seat, and front, and also need a defroster, this is for you. After looking at the particular heat duct that Pierce made for Kirby, (nothing wrong with it), but I decided to build a better moustrap. Since I drive a Green tractor and reside in the Great state of Oklahoma, I figured it would be pretty easy to modify and invent. I even made it very easy for Tim to reproduce... more on that later.

    This heat vent is easily pushed in behind the v brace in the floor, right in front of the stock heat vent. I went to the local muffler shop and found a piece of 2" muffler pipe, then I had the muffler shop put a 1/2" flange on it in their machine. I cut it 3.5' long... wallah,,, almost done.

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    This is where it gets easy for Tim.... I then cut a piece of bent 1" conduit, cut a hole in the 2", modified the 1" as seen in some more pics and then used PC7 (JB weld) around the seams. I did this because I wanted to see if it would work for those of you who do not have access to a welder. I could have migged it or Tigged it for a cleaner look. But as I was thinking of Tim, I decided to goop it up and see if it would hold.

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    You can see how much sticks inside the 2". I left space around the 1" so air can flow around it to the front seat area.


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    Before it was glued in, I cut it in this shape to create a spoon for the air to flow into.

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    More detail.

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    Painted and put a 1 1/4 scat hose on it and run under seat to back. You can see it just plugs in behind v brace and can be rotated where hose is up, side, or down. So, I flew yesterday and tried it out.... I scientifically used a Kestrel wind speed machine. Out of the floor it blew 11 mph with vent wide open and using a thermal reader it read 125 degrees and climbing till I burnt up and shut it off. Out of the hose it blew 12 mph at 125 degrees and climbing.... I painted it high temp charcoal grill flat black.

    I have a Sutton exhaust I just had the heat ribbons installed,,, but for an easy fix for the backseat heat, this is it.

    By the way, it is PMA'd in case you are wondering... Parts Made in America.
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    Where is the duct tape and zip ties?
    "Put out my hand and touched the face of God!"

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    Soooooooo, where is the defroster???
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    Upon close inspection that's not JB Weld that's dried OKIE bullshit
    Never stay level!!!!!
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    That is really a nice idea though
    Never stay level!!!!!

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    You Okie's are a learning, slow but learning

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    http://www.j3-cub.com/forum/showthre...highlight=heat

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    You Okie's are a learning, slow but learning

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    http://www.j3-cub.com/forum/showthre...highlight=heat

    Glenn

    What kind of conglomeration is that??? My hose runs to the back seat and not on each elbow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fobjob View Post
    Soooooooo, where is the defroster???
    Pull the hose out from under the seat and put it on the window, on ur hands, or if your gonads are froze, stick it up your pants leg.


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    can not freeze what you don't have
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
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    It might be worth considering that the frigid winter temp forecast for this Saturday in Jenks, OK is 82 degrees...

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    Having made that snide remark, I greatly appreciate posts like this. Ridicule aside, rear seat, elbow heat, etc, is a good how to.

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    JB weld, really ? Looks like a fair idea, but if you're not capable I'd hire a tig welder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    JB weld, really ? Looks like a fair idea, but if you're not capable I'd hire a tig welder
    It's called "Easy enough for Tim".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Foy View Post
    Where is the duct tape and zip ties?
    Florida
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
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    Nice try, Kirby. You are the one who gave up the Okie Engineering toolbox!

    We dont need no stinkin' heat!
    "Put out my hand and touched the face of God!"

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    I didn't take any finish photos, must be slipping. I'll take some tomorrow morning, but my add-on for the rear seat starts with these parts.

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    And here I am during a test fit to determine finish lengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Foy View Post
    Nice try, Kirby. You are the one who gave up the Okie Engineering toolbox!

    We dont need no stinkin' heat!
    You knew I had to...
    Remember, These are the Good old Days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    You knew I had to...
    No sweat. Duct tape is your friend.
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    I shot my scat tube to rear seat last winter with IR temp gun it was over 200 degrees!! That temp might cause issues with tape, paint, varnish or other plastic parts.
    DENNY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    JB weld, really ? Looks like a fair idea, but if you're not capable I'd hire a tig welder
    That is how Okies do it Tim.
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    I'm just wondering what JB weld smells like at 150-200 degrees.
    Remember, These are the Good old Days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    I'm just wondering what JB weld smells like at 150-200 degrees.
    I wondered the same thing. But in his defense, he did ask me to build him one several months ago but I hadn't gotten around to it.
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    Mine is a piece of 1-1/2" tubing riveted into a 2" duct flange with 1-1/2" SCAT running to the back. The gap lets plenty of heat out for the front seat. Simple and effective, with just two rivets. No welding required, JB or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    I'm just wondering what JB weld smells like at 150-200 degrees.
    Dunno,,, it stayed solid. I cured it quicker in the over at 200 degrees.


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    Quote Originally Posted by txpacer View Post
    Mine is a piece of 1-1/2" tubing riveted into a 2" duct flange with 1-1/2" SCAT running to the back. The gap lets plenty of heat out for the front seat. Simple and effective, with just two rivets. No welding required, JB or otherwise.
    Pics?


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    I'll snap a shot when I get home this afternoon

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    Perhaps I went overboard but I figured if I didn't protect it I will squash it














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    The duct going vertical will split into two for vents on either side of the panel


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    Jim, can't wait until you unveil ours.

    From Genesis: "And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be
    found in all corners of the earth."

    Then he made the earth round... and He laughed and laughed and laughed!

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    The smaller SCAT tube fits better with the underseat battery.

    I don't have pretty floorboards.

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    There you go, same concept. I don't have underseat battery


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    Apparently heat business has been so good, Steve's taken to advertising.
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    "...We're fast enough to get there, But slow enough to see..."
    Fron the song "Barometer Soup". By Jimmy Buffett
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    I would really like to throw in my 2 cents (worth of material) here:

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    Actually, the big problem with my heater, besides the smell of burning rubber from my shoes, is that it tends to cook my avionics. No failures yet, but it worries me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40m View Post
    Jim, can't wait until you unveil ours.
    We are not in any danger of burning our boots in the sport Cubs with our heat output. Will put up some pix later when I get home

    jim

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    [QUOTE=Scouter;680968]We are not in any danger of burning our boots in the sport Cubs with our heat output. Will put up some pix later when I get home.

    (Not wanting to steal Jim's thunder, after all he is the inventor and patent holder but here's a sneak preview of Jim's handy work. VT Glenn)



    I flew 110 miles to Portland Maine. 28 degrees outside and was able to fly with no jacket and gloves. Here is what i did

    1 First thing is to call Zack in parts at CubCrafters and order a window seal kit. It makes a big difference and the weatherstripping is superior to the stuff at Lowes. I have a few more spots to seal yet but it really helps. This is probably the lowest hanging fruit

    2 I got the following stuff off Amazon




    This is an 82mm x 82 mm Vantech tornado computer cooling fan. Blows like hell, draws little amps, its 12 v

    3 Added a DC voltage controller, its a Yeeco 12 v DC volt


    4 Added a cigarette lighter adapter with a switch and a fuse



    5 Put the controller in a plastic box




    I had my friend John the tinknocker make me a custom piece of aluminum that fits on the floor to mount the fan. I have it taped with alum tape because I want to take the whole thing out quickly in the spring
    John can be reached by text at 207-341-1063 and can make you one and ship as well. I dont know what he is going to charge $$ Hes a honest and hardworking guy, even though he has a beard like ZZ Top

    It looks like this on the floor of the cub. It really not in the way of my size 13




    I velcro the rotary controller to a lighter adapter I use, its easy to shut off with the switch, since the cub assc socket is live all the time



    Its my first attempt, i know it looks like polish farmers assembled it. It does blow out more heat without question.
    if you run it in the hangar wide open, you can go up front to the intake and the suction is noticeable. I need to do some outside temps/ heat output temps on different days to compare. A big underlying issue is the single heat muff on one header pipe is not enough heat.
    I am sending a setup to my Pheasant King Corp aviation facility in VT to try, I know he will give it a workout. The whole lashup weighs less than 2 lbs, and can be removed in 3 minutes. The parts from Amazon were less than 50 bucks Fire away, looking for ideas, so shoot bullets at my balloon. I would really like to see it come from CC done by guys who know how to do this stuff, but I understand its more weight and complexity, not what we all look for in LSA

    jim



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    Uncle Steve,

    Not that JB Weld is not good stuff, but if you want, I might be able to weld one of these up as a welding project in my quest to learn all things TIG.

    But I don't want to steal your thunder, let me know if you want a 'project' part.
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    Uncle Steve,

    Not that JB Weld is not good stuff, but if you want, I might be able to weld one of these up as a welding project in my quest to learn all things TIG.

    But I don't want to steal your thunder, let me know if you want a 'project' part.
    Tig welding is fun. you just need to practice a lot

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    Red face

    Just received a care package from Maine.
    Thank you Jim!
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    From Genesis: "And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40m View Post
    Just received a care package from Maine.
    Thank you Jim!
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    Dont thank me just yet. Put it on the floor of your Cubcrafters girl then call me

    jim
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