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    Kydex reply

    This was the helpful answer I got back from Laird Plastics. I really don`t think I will need 60 sheets. Anyone knew where you can buy 2 or 3 sheets.

    The thinnest possible would be the .040 for Kydex 510. Please see below and let me know if this is something we can go ahead and get moving for you.


    60 sht min .040 for the Pewter 48 x 96
    $1.76/sq with clear cap (specify low or high gloss)
    3 weeks to ship plus freight collect from PA

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    From: Skip [mailto:burney@bulloch.net]
    Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:23 AM
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    Hi Mike I am really looking forward to using Kydex inside this airplane. This will be my 5th restoration and this airplane is a 1946 Piper. I am thinking about using Kydex 510 in pewter grey # 5200 in .040 thick and Pewter grey # 52001 in .028. What info can you give me about these? Thanks a million Skip Burney



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    It was a pleasure speaking with you and we appreciate you reaching out. As you mentioned just let me know the exact specs when you get back.

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    call RON in the Spokane store... he did me good a few times.... he searched all the Liard distributers, and had 3 sheets drop shipped from? Missouri for $40 to ALASKA!!! but i just wanted .040" black

    you might be asking for a color/flavor they DONT STOCK and THEY get stuck with a minimum order from kydex.... get less picky!

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    Thank Mike and Happy Birthday to you and Sam, I think the dealer in Charlotte is going to hook me up. The Atlanta distributor was not much help. They don`t think Kydex will ship to a residence but I don`t mind driving to Charlotte to get what I want. I just hope I can do half as good with it as you have. You set the bar pretty high. Thanks Skip

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    Mike did you use all .040 or did you use the .028 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    call RON in the Spokane store... he did me good a few times.... he searched all the Liard distributers, and had 3 sheets drop shipped from? Missouri for $40 to ALASKA!!! but i just wanted .040" black

    you might be asking for a color/flavor they DONT STOCK and THEY get stuck with a minimum order from kydex.... get less picky!
    I think Mike is right here. They don't seem to stock many colors other than white and black. I've bought one and two sheets at a time of those colors in .040" thickness from Laird and they rolled them up and sent them by UPS.
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    You may find better availability using Kydex 100. Why 510?

    .040 is barely rigid enough for flat pieces and that will require good distribution of screw tabs and backing. .060 would be better for flat panels but it'll add weight. .028 is flimsy and wouldn't be feasible for most panels unless you formed it with ribs or returns to stiffen it.

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    first ones I did were .060... but last few have been using .040.... think I will stick with .040"

    only have some .028 to play with vac forming... not practical for interior, but maybe small odd shaped pieces...

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    Sounds like I just need to stick with aluminum then
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    The color


    The color I wanted is only available in 510

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    kydex sent me an email about a new lighter aviation grade.....

    IntroducingKYDEX® T-LW
    Our newest formulation for aviation interior
    applications is now our lightest formulation.
    Same time-tested quality and service.

    Available now.
    We specifically developed KYDEX® T-LW to have
    the flammability characteristics of KYDEX® T,
    but a bonus of significant weight savings.

    Ideal for complex parts. Delivered in customized
    colors in the timeframe you require.



    not sure about the 10% weight savings.... since thinnest is .047" and is thicker than the .040? i use currently....

    http://www.kydex.com/Uploads/Files/K...ta%20Sheet.pdf

    KYDEX® T-LW is a fire-rated thermoplastic sheet that has the flammability characteristics of a PVC/PMMA alloy and featuressignificant weight savings compared to standard KYDEX® T and polycarbonate. KYDEX® T-LW is a light-weight alternative to heavier fire-rated thermoplastics. It meets a wide range of fire safety standardsincluding FAR 25.853(a) vertical burn, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 302, and UL 94 V-0. It offers a significant weightreduction compared to other PVC/PMMA alloys.
    Aircraft Interiors
    Mass Transit Vehicle Interior Components

    Offers a 10% weight savings compared to KYDEX
    ® T and polycarbonate
    Meets flammability requirements listed in FAR 25.853(a)

    Available in P-1, P-3, and P-C textures and thicknesses from 1.19mm ( 0.047”) to 6.35mm (0.250”)

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    Thanks Mike I am still trying to get something in a medium to light grey

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    I've bought gray kydex from CAC a few times. Other colors, too. In stock, no waiting. http://www.cacalaska.com/airservices.html

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    Thanks Stewart just sent them an e mail

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    I got a 4x8 sheet from Laird in WA last year. Can't recall the dudes name, but very helpful. Sent it rolled up in a tube and even knew how to find the US Post Office.

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    I just bought a 4x8 at interstate plastic in boise $102. Marc
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    CAC wants 200 bucks for a 4x8 sheet of .048

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    I just bought a 4x8 at interstate plastic in boise $102. Marc
    Thanks Marc I will check with them

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    Alaskan freight expense often Is more than the product being shipped. At least you have a source.

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    After pulling out the leather a will lose 35 lbs. I can't wait to put kydex in. Has any one have idea how to mount a arm rest. Marc
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    Mine had more padding on the panels than is on my sofa, it looked like a cathouse parlor

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    Alaskan freight expense often Is more than the product being shipped. At least you have a source.
    I was amazed with Liard(Ron in Spokane)... 3 4x8 sheets drop shipped from Missouri? UPS for $40. total freight to Chugiak so I had $248. including freight... CAC wanted almost that much for 1 sheet....

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    That's applicable to small orders. For a dealer who has to buy quantities the sheets are laid flat on a pallet. Pallets aren't free and aren't cheap to ship. I occasionally buy pallet quantities of HDPE and Lexan products. If I buy enough I can see a small savings by going to the factories. For small orders I'm better off buying from a local stocking dealer. When I need Kydex I call CAC. They have it and it's here. I don't have the patience to shop. Buy local!
    Last edited by stewartb; 09-28-2014 at 12:01 PM.

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    Does anyone have a pitcher of a map pocket that have made. Marc
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    I agree Stewart if Charlotte or Atlanta offices of Laird could get it for me I would drive there and get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    Does anyone have a pitcher of a map pocket that have made. Marc
    this was for a PA-12 a year or two ago....



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    Well guys looks like I have struck out. Laird in Atlanta, Spokane and Charlotte have no grey in any kind of Kydex. Interstate can get it if I buy 60 sheets and CAC wants 200 bucks a sheet plus freight. Looks like it`s aluminum for me

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    I had a white kydex interior. It showed dirt, but I was mostly happy with it. I tried to source another color (1 sheet 4x8') last spring. Very, very difficult. If anything other than white or black - tough to find. Lots of cool colors in knife sheath size. I ended up doing the carbon fiber look vinyl wrap on top of my white kydex and LOVE the results. Very easy. Durability has been good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iflylower View Post
    I had a white kydex interior. It showed dirt, but I was mostly happy with it. I tried to source another color (1 sheet 4x8') last spring. Very, very difficult. If anything other than white or black - tough to find. Lots of cool colors in knife sheath size. I ended up doing the carbon fiber look vinyl wrap on top of my white kydex and LOVE the results. Very easy. Durability has been good.
    Do you have a pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Do you have a pic?

    Here are is my write up/post from June on the subject.

    http://www.supercub.org/forum/showth...arbon+interior
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    I can get white make my panels and wrap em with whatever I like NOW that's the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I can get white make my panels and wrap em with whatever I like NOW that's the idea

    kinda defeates the major advantage of using kydex... its the same color all the way through, so when it gets damaged.....

    might as well just use aluminum and put the stickers on it....

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    I have seen photo of aluminum panels covered with grey fabric that might work too

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    Is Kydex paintable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_flyer1 View Post
    Is Kydex paintable?
    Yes Check out the tech notes on the kydexer? Website

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    Just starting to cut my patterns out today. Just wondering what a good way to make a map pocket. Marc
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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_flyer1 View Post
    Is Kydex paintable?
    But if you scratch it the other color will show through

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    I'm going to put carbon fiber wrap o mine. If you use black kydex it $102 for 4x8 any other colors it $45 more. Marc
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    I just ordered a 4 X 8 sheet of Kydex in pewter gray from Curbell Plastics in Colorado for my wide body cub build. $160 for the Kydex and $39.75 for shipping to my door. They were very friendly, and helpful , and returned my calls very promptly, and answered 5 or 6 separate e mails questions via e mail for me In one afternoon. Ask for Cari, she was my rep, and was very friendly and helpful.

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    Does anyone here have a pattern to make the panels for a 1947 PA-12 Super Cruiser? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foosghost View Post
    Does anyone here have a pattern to make the panels for a 1947 PA-12 Super Cruiser? Thanks.
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