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Good thing I like tits.
The Southwest IA expo finished up today. Went off without a hitch- a little lacking on decent presentations but other than that, well attended. As an interesting note- One class I sat through today, a presentation by Concorde batteries, the presenter had us all introduce ourselves. Fully 80% of those in the room were RETIRED. About half hadn't worked on a plane in over 5 years. The other half were only IAs to do their own annuals. I think if the FAA weeded a few of the ones out who have no legitimate need to be IAs their load would be far, far lighter. I think the average age in the room was 65- some were even barely able to walk. I guess they want to hold on forever and live in the past.
Now, as for the Tea party, originally, I was for them. Then when I discovered their real agenda (completely gutting the government and anything associated with it- including my pension that I worked many years for) I certainly don't support them anymore. I think there are a large percentage of the Tea partiers who are just as uniformed as the "I voted for Barry because he is black" crowd. There has to be temperance in all things.
Take it how you like it Kase!Originally Posted by kase
Just make sure you do some work for your pay............
....is all I'm sayin'
Den, we should retire IA's so the Feds don't have to work so hard!!! Wow what planet are you living on? What did you earn your pension doing? You sound like a true bureaucrat. I'll take the tea party philosophy any day...less government is a positive. How many deadbeat pensions can we afford to support...
Be damned!
I've never been compared to a guvment employe before. I've been called a lot of things before, but never a guvment employee! I don't know how to respond. Does that mean I get a free obama phone?
Nope, ain't gonna go there, don't want this thread to go to R & R. I'm gonna have to cogitate about this before I make a response I will regret! (I'll probably make the response anyway and may or may not regret it.)
I will be biting my tongue. bite, bite, bite,......
When you have to put an entire expo on so that guys that don't work on planes anymore can keep up their renewal there is a problem. I wonder what it cost the taxpayers to pull that off? I guess there is more than one way to look at this. Not sure what you mean by "deadbeat pensions" I was a police officer for more than 20 years. Our retirement plan is self-sustaining and doing fine. I worked hard for mine and I don't like the idea of someone deciding that what I worked for for so long should no longer be mine- I am anything but a bureaucrat. I'm all for smaller government just don't think it's fair to lump the rank and file in with politicians.
Den, most muni-public, state, and Federal pension programs are under-funded....the health care side of things has exploded in cost... This represents trillions of dollars that need to come from somewhere...who do you think is going to be stuck with the bill? The state of Alaska had a pension program that ended @ ten years ago...that fund is 16-18 billion in the red. The idiots that negotiated with the public workers unions that are driving this insanity, should be forced to pay for it.
I know quite a few older IA's, I wouldn't want to try to tell them that they can't be an IA anymore. Good luck on that one.
No doubt some are under funded. Mine is not. As for the old IAs. I don't have a problem with someone being old and being an IA what I have a problem with is someone who NO LONGER exercises their privileges yet ties up an IA spot. There are a finite number of IAs authorized is each FSDO. When 70% of the IAs are no longer exercising their privileges. This places a needless burden on PMIs to do their job for nothing. I think they need to sh!t or get off the pot. Just my personal feeling on the whole thing. There are a lot of these guys who have NO business signing off airworthiness on anything yet there are no limitations on their certificates so long as they get their 8 hours each year.
Two thoughts, Den: Don't the FAR's limit what is signed off, and if 70% of the I.A. aren't exercising their privileges, can't the other 30% charge more?
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What would happen if they extended the renewal interval by another year. Do you IA's need to have yourselves renewed every two years?
Jerry
If it looks smooth...it might be
If it looks rough...it is!!
Den:
Where could I find that "finite number" of AIs for our FSDO?
Thanks
Den: I think that most of us older IAs who also worked very hard for our certifications are attending to keep up with the ever changing system or for "continuing education" and would feel exactly the sameway as you do about your "former profession". As for the "finite number of IAs".... never heard of such a thing and Ive been in this for over 40 years. If you meet the qualifications and pass the extensive testing then you are certificated.
Ed
DPE are limited not I.A.s ?
I was told it is up to each FSDO and they can accept of reject applications depending on whether they have a need or the manpower to supervise that many IAs. It seems that each FSDO is an entity into itself. Getting something in writing from the FAA is next to impossible. In Scottsdale, they want you to email them and then they will CALL you-don't want to commit to anything I guess. My buddy did get a field approval out of them last year
Jerry, this 2 year IA stuff is a joke, 3 yrs would be even more so. We still have to submit a form every year or go to a conference every year to show we met the qualifications for that year. They still have to pay postage to send that form back. They've only freed up a little time not having to sign the cert, and saving the application and storing it.
The most important aspect of this signature line is that you don't realize it doesn't say anything significant until you are done reading it & then it is too late to stop reading it....
Sec. 65.91I was told it is up to each FSDO and they can accept of reject applications depending on whether they have a need or the manpower to supervise that many IAs. It seems that each FSDO is an entity into itself. Getting something in writing from the FAA is next to impossible. In Scottsdale, they want you to email them and then they will CALL you-don't want to commit to anything I guess. My buddy did get a field approval out of them last year
Inspection authorization.
(a) An application for an inspection authorization is made on a form and in a manner prescribed by the Administrator.
(b) An applicant who meets the requirements of this section is entitled to an inspection authorization.
(c) To be eligible for an inspection authorization, an applicant must --
(1) Hold a currently effective mechanic certificate with both an airframe rating and a powerplant rating, each of which is currently effective and has been in effect for a total of at least 3 years;
(2) Have been actively engaged, for at least the 2-year period before the date he applies, in maintaining aircraft certificated and maintained in accordance with this chapter;
(3) Have a fixed base of operations at which he may be located in person or by telephone during a normal working week but it need not be the place where he will exercise his inspection authority;
(4) Have available to him the equipment, facilities, and inspection data necessary to properly inspect airframes, powerplants, propellers, or any related part or appliance; and
(5) Pass a written test on his ability to inspect according to safety standards for returning aircraft to service after major repairs and major alterations and annual and progressive inspections performed under part 43 of this chapter.
The most important aspect of this signature line is that you don't realize it doesn't say anything significant until you are done reading it & then it is too late to stop reading it....
Was it '55 or '56 that I.A.'s were invented? Before that an FAA inspector annualed your airplane, gave you a new airworthiness cert. So putting on a seminar should hurt the FAA.
I went to one put on by Air Salvage of Dallas, paid $130. 300 I.A.'s attended, great program. Probably do it again next year and I do enough annuals and 337's not to have to go.
Remember an airplane can have more than one "annual" a year.
The "DAMI" ( Designated Aircraft Maintenance Inspector) preceded the IA system.
I understand there were limits on the number.
Pre 1969 though.
"N57442...Frankly, used to love the old Anchorage IA seminars in the FAA Hangar. Good time to see old aviation buddies and argue over who was going to pay for the hamburger feed. Don't live in Alaska in March anymore so can live without seminar but I do miss the BS. Hi Dan. Larry"
Took part in those hangar meetings. Were you at the one that had the "find the most squawks on the super cub"? A friend of mine won that...and considering the 100+ squawks found, makes him a pretty damn good wrench. Fun times. And cool to have the old timers there like George Pappas, John Rogers and Atlee Dodge. If you own or mech a Cub, no doubt it has one of their STC's or Field Approvals on it.
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propwasher,
Wish I could have been there. Sound like a great fun.
Clayton...this was in Anchorage about 10 or so years ago. Lots of FSDO inspectors were originally from industry and not failures either but good mechanics. Many had worked for themselves or for outfits like Wien, Reeve Aleutian, AIA and smaller outfits. But when the company folds where do you go...usually the paycheck of last resort...the FAA. When you work your way from one end of the flight line to the other...gotta hope to retire somewhere. I was one of those (Wien). Not an ASI anymore but back bendin wrenches...when I want to.
Really liked the IA meetings back then. Most IAs that came didn't need the hours for renewal but came, from all over Alaska just to rub elbows with other mechs. Since the FAA was forbidden to spend money on food, we ASIs ponied up, borrowed a four drum bar-b-q from Northern Air Cargo, bought all the grub, cooked it and put out empty coffee cans for donations. The years that we put it on we never came up short, the IAs donations always covered our expenses. Great bunch of people.
Sump'in wrong with being 65 and worken' on airplanes?
I gotta chance to talk to Bill O'Brien once (RIP). FA Dodge once. (RIP)
I stood up and publicly thanked the Cessna Rep for getting us on-line SB's.
So what if I have enuff annuals and majors. I still like the IA seminars.
I see a few A&P students every time, wish there were more tho.
I'm not gonna last forever.
I went down to the IA renewal in ANC once when Bill O'Brien was there just to see and meet him. They had something like 10 inspectors out on the Iditarod trail........
Tim
A friend of mine won one of those "find the squawk" competitions.....wonder if it was the same guy. Every year I'd introduce myself to Joe Wilbur and he'd say "I know who you are" I don't think he had a clue! The good old days were fun. Now I fly and wrench for fun not profit.
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