I just got an email from the Anchorage FSDO that the IA Renewal seminar is cancelled due to the sequester. I thought that was interesting. A 2.4% decrease in a 12% increase is cause to cancel the seminar? I don't attend so it doesn't matter to me, but, it will affect some folks.
Is the same thing happening in other parts of the country?
Get ready we're loosing a bunch of Class D towers (some are no great loss but Stillwater, Norman, and Enid have a BUNCH of traffic) and eliminating the overnight shift (Approach and Tower) at our two Class C facilities in Oklahoma that have lots of cargo traffic...Originally Posted by T.J.
I don't think that in today's DC they could even compromise enough to pass The Bill of Rights, and now it's time to make it sting where ever possible... how to kill a recovery brought to us in the middle by the tea baggers and the uber left.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
My bet is that the FAA folks still will work their 40 hours, and get paid. I wonder what the budget issue is that they can not do the seminar?
I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
Don't really understand what you are saying, but what I do understand is that using the phrase "tea bagger" is a filthy pejorative used to smear decent people who only want spending control. The term you used is associated with a gross sex act, but you already know that. They call themselves the Tea Party, and using filth to describe any Americans that care about America is juvenile and uncalled for.
They the FAA, are going to get TWO days off without pay. From April to OCT.
Tim
Here in sunny SoCal we are at 50% by actual count of our 1977 operations. If you factor the overall increase in population since 1977, it is more like 36%.
i did not count the number of feds in 1977, but I knew most of them. There are now so many I get introduced to a new one every time I go in. Not only that, but now I need an appointment, and in 1977 all I needed was to stick my nose in the door.
They no longer administer written tests. They no longer do field approvals. They stopped the IA seminars last year - private industry does it for a fee.
They are still nice folks, but maybe we need a sequester.
As to the Tea Party comment, I always thought they named themselves. Occasional talking heads on TV identify themselves as Tea Party members. I did not think it was a pejorative term.
It was the "tea bagger" comment that was a pejorative term and i agree with fabricfan 100%.
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Today i called for an appointment - renew the IA and get a ferry permit. Not 'till Thursday. First time I have not been able to get right in. Must be the sequester. Good thing the ferry can be put off.
TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party. I'm a supporter, but if you don't feel your paying enough, then send your favorite government some more money.
I have no use for any extreme of political view, leftist commie dog or tea bag toting right... hows that?
Last edited by OLDCROWE; 03-04-2013 at 09:07 PM.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
i guess i need to google tea bagger because thats new to me... my point is neither extreme is correct. you cant tax the Federal Government out of the debt situation any more than you can cut spending sufficiently to really eliminate the debt but the extremes can sure stop any progress our fragile economy has built up.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
i guess we're getting different news http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/a...1_CUTLIN469328
Last edited by OLDCROWE; 03-04-2013 at 09:05 PM.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
I'm confused, which is no surprise.
"to cut 600 million from its operating budget for the remainder of the 2013 fiscal year."
"Congress that required lawmakers to pass 2.2million in budget cuts."
Now the way I read that, The feds are going to cut budgets by 2.2 million and the faa is going to cut their budget by 600 million.
Am I incorrect in that?
every time i watch hotel impossible see how bad things are run ijust wish they would have a show FAA impossible . It is sad what this place has become,I have run a stand alone aviation business ,charter and bannertowing 30 years and have to fight for everything. even the police chief was trying to bootleg a plane because charter was to much money
airshows they will not let me bannertow because they say they bought off the the air space well now they get a taste of their own now at are cost
If we could get a "Corporate Turn-around Type" to turn the government around, he would "lay some people off", or at least do a "hiring freeze". It is the only way to save real money.
You would think they would drop it to two annuals a year then, make it easier to keep the ia, without a class available.
Tom Ford
Knee jerk reaction. Nothing is supposed to happen for 30 days after the sequester. Old crow when you google tea bagger don't do it in images! Lol
Yep, evidently depends on the agency. I mean't 22 days. Got my IA renewed today. They aren't getting as many days off as the agency I work for; according to the Inspector I was talking to. Things are going to get tight.
Tim
Does "tight" budget mean less enforcement?
i see more enforcement for fine (revenue) generating activities.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
Is there an elephant in the room? .......or is no one aware that The extreme government of Egypt has been gifted by the American taxpayers many millions of dollars and materiel, without expectations by the current us admin. enough for us to keep our current FAA in business. Sorry, but this is not Rant and Rave material. D
Chicago style politics. Small guy eats his lunch. Top of the food chain feels nothing.
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All I hope is that the FAA adopts the expanded no-medical proposal for private pilots because it'll reduce the workload on the FAA Aeromedical division at a time when a reduced workload makes perfect sense. I hope somebody in the FAA grasps the opportunity. To the IA thing? The FAA should make me administrator for a few days. I could turn their deficit into a surplus. A few folks would whine, and the whining would come from both sides of the counter, but TFB. It's about time something forced them to live within their means.
Last edited by sierra bravo; 03-06-2013 at 02:17 PM.
'...live within their means...'
Agreed.
It will hurt for a little bit, but survival is likely.
Dave,
How about send Egypt the FAA?
But seriously, why not cut the gifts to all the other countries and pay our bills here?
Sorry, just wondering
I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
I agree. Can't imagine we are really "exporting democracy", when we give money away. Sheesh.
Kirby,
You'll have to educate me a little since I've never been to a Tea Party Function. What part of their doctrine is extreme. Only thing i've read is they are just asking ( and politely too,) that the Govt stop "wasteful" spending.
What did i miss. I know how the other media portrays them but that's about all.
Brian
The most important aspect of this signature line is that you don't realize it doesn't say anything significant until you are done reading it & then it is too late to stop reading it....
Brian,
I think the issue folks, at least the ones I talk to (which are suspect due to their association with me) is that the Tea Party folks take an "extreme" view of what wasteful spending.
For some reason they are unwilling to compromise. Folks seem to think that their staunch view that "we ran on a platform to not do X, so we will not do X" is an obstructionist view. I am understanding from what other say that on campaign it is proper to make a promise to stand for a particular set of beliefs, and then once elected you can modify/relax that belief to make it easier to pass laws...
Now that the country is faced with a small group of folks that are standing firm in what they promised on campaign, and that group being just the right number to hold anything from being passed, the country is blaming those folks for standing firm.
Yup, it has caused many bills to stall, and right now our country is looking very VERY silly in it's non-action and inability to make a spending plan that works.
I do look at it differently, I must applaud folks for standing firm on what they promised. As we increase the folks that demand fiscal responsibility the situation will be rectified by outnumbering the folks compromising us into the total crisis we are in now. Maybe cutting unemployment benefits to a six month period would be good... or cut out welfare and foreign aid.
Wow, entitlement programs... just the fact that we call it such maybe we should consider...
And TSA... there is a group that has made our country better.
Kirby, I respect you and understand your frustration. But consider the principal, that they were elected by citizens because they said they would not vote a certain way. They are doing what their constituants have asked, and really what you probably would want. Maybe what needs to happen is that the fiscal relaxed side should rethink their spending.
Continuing down the road we have been on does not seem prudent, does it?
I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
Tempting to join in - most of my friends are pretty far along the road to Conservatism. They want everything cut except defense, and that includes getting rid of a lot of administrative agencies, drastically cutting social security and medicare, and no welfare or unemployment for the slackers. One suggested that anybody who does not pay taxes should not get to vote.
Not all, but most - made all of their salary, and get all of their retirement, from the government. The most outraged is a fireman - retired at full pay at 55. Hates to pay taxes.
Me? Sometimes I feel a little bit guilty spending all my remaining days on a heavily taxpayer- supported airport. I get my money's worth. I would cut defense spending, especially the part that goes to drones.
Did get the IA renewed yesterday. Should be an interesting month for some IAs.
Here is how compromise works.
I say "The sun is coming up tomorrow."
The compromiser says, "Nope, it ain't, lets compromise."
I wimp out and say, "OK, lets compromise."
The compromiser agrees.
Who wins? Who was right?
Point...If you are right and you compromise, you lose! If you are right, there is no compromise.
TJ, George and others in my close observation unfortunately the way the R party is actually operating is that a small minority that represents the uber right (many are former John Birch Society members here) have hijacked the process to get ONLY their views approved as platform and then hold elected officials to that platform or we'll "we'll run someone to the right of you." even to the extreme position of the local R party censuring members of the party who are elected officials for having the unmitigated gall to call an election so that the voters could decide a sales tax issue which failed.
As a specific example in Tulsa we have a sales tax program called Vision2025 (which I manage) that was approved by in excess 62% of the voters in an all time record turn out election yet the uber right who has since hijacked the R party (this election was called with a R majority of elected officials) has so shouted down and taken over the process that they were able to get the local platform to be against this program after the election and to be against any renewal of it even though this program has done more good for Tulsa than can ever be replicated in terms of community enhancement (with the flagship project we now have a state of the art arena which has sold out for everything from the Eagles Fleetwood Mac, Reba, Carrie, Taylor, Sir Paul, Clapton, every other Country act except for Garth and he lives here to the Lady Gaga and last month hosting we the largest weigh in ever for the Bass Masters Classic with the fire marshall turning away thousands) which has revitalized much of the region but it sits as the essence of what this group sees as evil.
This is going on every day and is delivering the R party (of which I am a very disgruntled member) to the party of no. No growth, no progress, no compromise and all this serves to do is to force people like me to think about changing which just adds more power to the uber left D's.
A headline example this week was that one of the best congressman Oklahoma has ever delivered Frank Lucas is now targeted simply because he chaired the powerful House Agriculture Committee where all food and farm programs originate with the Farm Bill he's an announced target even though the bill his committee approved was a significant reduction in spending but because it did not rip away long standing programs he is evil.
Am I for eliminating waste and fraud you bet and I have a good list but I also have a heart for those who can't work because of poverty and poor conditions that need to be changed and especially those who work or for the government and get looked at with contempt just because they do, they are not evil they are workers contributing to the economy (but they could do with a bit less vacation and holidays and retire in the same systems I have access to). You don't have to be in harms way to be of value to our society you could be an FAA controller at a busy airport or delivering the mail and I'm going to say thank you every time I can.
My solution, we need a middle party and I predict in a few more years we'll have one and it will be strong and when one extreme wants 100% sun shine and the other wants overcast we'll get partly cloudy and life will be good when our extremes only drift between broken and scattered.
Last edited by OLDCROWE; 03-07-2013 at 06:45 AM.
"Illegitimis non carborundum"
Ok, I'll play the dummy here. What does the word uber mean? A quick look at Wikipedia says: is a German word meaning "above", "over" or "across" That doesn't seem to fit this usage. I must be out of touch with the modern venacular.
And to keep things on subject, the FAA had an IA renewal clinic at the Montana Aviation Conference last week.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Frankly, used to love the old Anchorage IA seminars in the FAA Hangar. Good time to see old aviation buddies and argue over who was going to pay for the hamburger feed. Don't live in Alaska in March anymore so can live without seminar but I do miss the BS. Hi Dan. Larry
The D party is in office....operating without a budget for how many years now? Spend Spend Spend.....why would we want to curtail all that spending with a budget....
For a moment, back on topic. IA Renewal.
Got it done AT THE FSDO. WHILE I WAITED!!!!! Didn't have to spend $.46 for a SASE to return my yellow card.
Everyone Smiled.
A little fear of losing your job might be good for the gubment! Helps make 'em shake a leg and get some work dun!
I applaud those public servants that know they have a JOB TO DO...and DO IT!!!!! I disdain those that simply suck on the tit.
Can someone splain to me how guvment workers contribute to the economy?
Thanks.
Depends on your perspective of the economy. They're consumers so they spend money. On the individual level they work hard for the money so they're just like any of us. If you want to get into the "creating a product/producing wealth" argument they don't fare so well, but then neither do aircraft mechanics. Skew the numbers to suit your viewpoint. It's what politicians do.
I wonder how the GA aircraft maintenance business would be different without government regulations? No required annuals. Relaxed airworthiness standards. I guess that makes aircraft mechanics governement subsidized?We're Americans. Forget the us versus them. There's only us. And that's my simplified summary of what's wrong with America. A country divided. We need to be united.
Last edited by sierra bravo; 03-07-2013 at 10:05 PM.
The problem isn't govt workers in general. We need govt workers, its the bureacracy that has created twice the number of govt employees than are needed. And now an economy that relies on all those employees. I wouldn't be the first to admit that if we got rid of half the govt employees it would seriously hurt the economy--- for a while, but it could and would recover and be stronger for it.
The most important aspect of this signature line is that you don't realize it doesn't say anything significant until you are done reading it & then it is too late to stop reading it....
There are a lot of non- government jobs that do not produce much. Still, we live in a pretty advanced society, and enjoy a lot of material goodies.
i am actually heartened by this conversation. I sort of automatically assume that most aviators are pretty far off to the right, but this group seems fairly moderate to me.
Pilots stack up pretty poorly on the "creating a product/producing wealth" scale. ....and I DO mean "STACK UP".
At least I'm there to rebuild or "re-create" the pile of junk the pilot left on the runway.
And There was a time when I made most of my money on the installation of "goodies", rather than the flat-rated inspection.
I can skew it my way.....I'm a pilot/operator/mechanic. SMILE
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