Small outboard motors

[bushmaster]

Lets talk about outboard motors and how you carry them. Just returned from Labrador and N. Quebec and we had to move outboards around. I think a bracket on float cross thwart-brace might serve dual purpose-ie place to carry motor plus you could put motor down to troll plane around for fishing off float. We hauled up to 15hp motor on top of float but was hard to strap on and hard on top of float. Yeh.Yeh external loads but lets see how somone might do this. I am thinking a 2-3.5hp that we could use 100ll in if needed would fit and work good I think older 2 stroke might fit in float comp. but I don't have an older motor to try.

[n40ff]

I've got a 1985 2 stroke Johnson 2hp. Not carrying in airplane but I would be interested if it would digest 100LL?

[aktango58]

I've got a 1985 2 stroke Johnson 2hp. Not carrying in airplane but I would be interested if it would digest 100LL?

All small engines from back in the 80's and before run better with avgas in them.

Mix your oil a touch extra, like instead of 50:1 go 45:1


old gas had far more base metals and octane. No avgas is the only one with lots of base metals... that is why it is trying to be eliminated.

Some guys here built a bracket fro the rear spreader bar to troll with. worked well, but don't think flying it there is so great. When you plow, the motor is going to be under water.

[sierra bravo]

Anyone flying with a small 4-stroke? Does it drain oil when stowed on it's side? I know guys who experienced that. Something they never thought about after all those years packing 2-strokes. Yamaha advertises their 4 and 6hp models won't drain oil when stowed on their sides. They don't say that about their 2 1/2. I flew a Yamaha 4-stroke 60 and it didn't leak even though I prepared for it. Those 4-strokes are HEAVY! Sure runs good, though. For little motors I'm still a 2-stroke fan.

[behindpropellers]

Anyone flying with a small 4-stroke? Does it drain oil when stowed on it's side? I know guys who experienced that. Something they never thought about after all those years packing 2-strokes. Yamaha advertises their 4 and 6hp models won't drain oil when stowed on their sides.

Most of them have a sticker on them saying how to lay them down so they do not drain the oil.

[Bill Ingerson]

I have a four stroke Honda, 7.5 h.p they are very heavy. I am trying to get it started, no spark. went to a honda outboard shop and they told me when you pull it and try to see a spark on a spark plug, you wont see a spark, first I have heard of that ?

A motor for a plane might be the electric motor that West Marine is now selling. It even has a builtin GPS that reads ground speed its German made and not cheap but would push a plane really good. I stopped in to a company called Easy Rider. They build fiberglass canoes ect. He had that same motor running off a solar cell blanket that he unrolled worked good.

[8GCBC]

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This 2 hp Honda is air cooled, light, 4 stroke and does not drip oil. http://marine.honda.com/outboards/motor-detail/BF2

It can be ordered second day air UPS for about 1K from http://www.tomnjerrys.net/

The best portable I have owned or used. Even beats a Seagull.

[bushmaster]

Wow 8GCBC you have alot of room in the back of your plane nice storage too!!! Ha Ha. I have looked at them on line-outboards and see a 3.5 about the same as 2 hp in some brands. as far as mounting I am thinking in front spreader so bracket can work for transport and to troll from just sit on float and lean on step and fish away. C g would work out better also. Any pictures of such doings. What are you alaska boys and girls doing. We have access to boats many times but no motor. I have thought of electric but concerned with carrying extra battery but open to ideas. I dont like shorted bat or acid problems. gel cells would work and i like idea of a roll up solar charger.

[Cub Drivers Local 907]

I have a 2.5 Suzuki four stroke that fits in the Aerocet float locker of my C185. Its light and clean and i use 100LL when I need to.

[Torch]

OB.jpg
This 2 hp Honda is air cooled, light, 4 stroke and does not drip oil. http://marine.honda.com/outboards/motor-detail/BF2

It can be ordered second day air UPS for about 1K from http://www.tomnjerrys.net/

The best portable I have owned or used. Even beats a Seagull.

I have been using 2HP Honda for years. Great motor and I lay it down on the side it is designed to lay on. Hasn't leaked oil on me in years of use.

[Olibuilt]

Sometimes I borrow a Suzuki 2.5 hp 4 stroke. Very nice motor, with neutral, reverse and foward. Very nice feature in many situation. At only 30 pounds (I think) it's very light. And you can do a very long time with almost no gaz.

I have a Yamaha 2 stoke 2hp that I don't really like. It do the job, but thats all, beside beiing very very light. Need to carry a few spare plugs when trolling too slow too long.

[SFD9]

I saw a bracket forsale once that attached to the rear spreader, think it was for one of the larger displacement EDO's. Rigged to the water rudder cables so you could steer from inside. I doubt you'd wanna just flip it up & fly that way, but add a couple rod holders to the front cleats & troll away

[skywagon8a]

This 2 hp Honda is air cooled, light, 4 stroke and does not drip oil. http://marine.honda.com/outboards/motor-detail/BF2

I have been using 2HP Honda for years. Great motor and I lay it down on the side it is designed to lay on. Hasn't leaked oil on me in years of use.

I have one of these 2hp Hondas and it does leak oil when riding in my pick up on it's side as it is supposed to be carried. I have not been able to find where the leak is located. Other than that it runs great and always starts on the first pull. I always run 100LL through it before storing for the winter and it starts right up in the spring. It stays on a dinghy in salt water all summer and some of the hardware does start to rust after a few years. Some of the crankcase is unprotected aluminum which corrodes. Honda could do better for salt water use.

I also have a 5 hp Tohatsu 2 stroke which I mount on a bracket which is bolted to the aft end of the 3500 floats on my 185. I use only 100 LL mix in this and carry it in the cabin. It goes a terrific job of pushing the 185 around.

[OVEREASYGUY]

Some of your posts make me think you are using the outboard motor to motor around on a seaplane? Why would you do that? Is it to land on the US side of a river and motor across - then go through customs? Why not just keep the airplane motor running and motor across? I'm working on getting my seaplane rating now and was just wondering?
Cliff in Maine

[aktango58]

fishing.

Aircraft engines are expensive and dangerous to troll with.

boats dont fly worth a darn.

[superchamp]

6 horse johnson 2 stroke will troll all day and still push a 14 foot boat right along have F N R and fit right inside ffloat locker on aerocet 3500 about $350 for good used ones. I also have 2.5 Yamaha 4 stroke has N F and I'm not that fond of it. You have to carry it just right or oil will leak into cylinders then forget starting it for a few days. It is a about same size weight as the 6 Johnson. Also have 2 horse Jonson 2 stroke which is very small and light. I prefer 2 stroke 4 strokes are just too large and touchy to transport. I have spreader bar bracket to hang motor on to troll airplane but unless it is dead calm too hard to control.

[8GCBC]

Trolling with an aircraft engine costs as much as chartering a 45' Sportfisher in Kona with full crew!

[N5126H]

Lets talk about outboard motors and how you carry them. Just returned from Labrador and N. Quebec and we had to move outboards around. I think a bracket on float cross thwart-brace might serve dual purpose-ie place to carry motor plus you could put motor down to troll plane around for fishing off float. We hauled up to 15hp motor on top of float but was hard to strap on and hard on top of float. Yeh.Yeh external loads but lets see how somone might do this. I am thinking a 2-3.5hp that we could use 100ll in if needed would fit and work good I think older 2 stroke might fit in float comp. but I don't have an older motor to try.

I have a small Tohotsu, I think it is about .75 hp, and the engine looks slightly larger than a model airplane. 2 cyl of course. runs great, pushes a canoe fine. I have also put it on a 12 skiff and it works ok as long as you are not in a hurry. I think empty it weighs about 8 lbs and fits in the floats no problem. Made to use on small plastic duck blind boats.

I also have a 2.5hp merc that is about 17 lbs and it works fine if I need more power.