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    Oops, darn it...

    FlipFlop has gone on to other pursuits, and SJ is so busy these days. I'm going to continue the tradition of posting the NTSB preliminary reports of our aviation mishaps. The purpose is as always: Figure out what went wrong and learn from it.

    Please, no politics, and keep the speculation to a minimum. Some of these folks we know and some we don't. Those we know will eventually post their version of the mishap, and hopefully the rest of us will learn from that.

    So, here we go:


    ************************************************** ******************************** Notice created 5/11/2012 Notice 6 ************************************************** **************************IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 999JV Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 05/10/2012 Time: 0215

    Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N

    LOCATION City: GULKANA State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE.

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/11/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Remember baloney is baloney no matter how thin you slice it, please let us speculate.

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    DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE

    This is a stretch if this damage is considered reportable as defined under NTSB 830 Regs. Gary

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    Anne, thanks for picking this up: I learn a lot from these postings.

    Thanks. cubscout

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    Thanks for doing this, Anne. Very helpful.

    Randy

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldYellow View Post
    DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE

    This is a stretch if this damage is considered reportable as defined under NTSB 830 Regs. Gary
    Nope, read NTSB 830: Any damage to a control surface is there, I believe.

    MTV

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Nope, read NTSB 830: Any damage to a control surface is there, I believe.

    MTV
    I think the word BALLANCED is in that. BALLANCED as in a Cessna control with WEIGHTS...... Is how I have always read it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    I think the word BALLANCED is in that. BALLANCED as in a Cessna control with WEIGHTS...... Is how I have always read it....
    Otherwise, I'm way behind in reporting the hell I have put my tail feathers through.

    Jerry
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    If it looks rough...it is!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempdoug View Post
    Remember baloney is baloney no matter how thin you slice it, please let us speculate.
    Okay, but please keep it constructive, and not personal. Everyone seems to already know this, but it's about the only ground rule I could think of, so there it is.

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    And I thought that gravity was the only rule...

    Thank you Anne for taking this up!
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!

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    Thank you Anne.

    Bill
    Very Blessed.

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    You're welcome, everyone! But since I'm basically lazy, I hope y'all fly safe so I don't have to post many more of these reports.

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    A couple of reports, no injuries, not Supercubs, but close cousins:


    ********************************
    Notice created 5/14/2012 Notice 7
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 278JB Make/Model: PA12 Description: PA-12 Super Cruiser
    Date: 05/12/2012 Time: 2255 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION City: IDAHO FALLS State: ID Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, IDAHO FALLS, ID

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SALT LAKE CITY, UT (NM07) Entry date: 05/14/2012


    ******************************
    Notice created 5/14/2012 Notice 26
    ******************************

    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 98568 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
    Date: 05/13/2012 Time: 2103 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: LAKE ARIEL State: PA Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD, NEAR LAKE ARIEL, WAYNE COUNTY, PA

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 1
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 1
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ALLENTOWN, PA (EA05) Entry date: 05/14/2012
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    It's like a SuperCub, a Maule M7, and it was pretty close to home (for me):


    *****************************
    Notice created 5/16/2012 Notice 1
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 420RP Make/Model: M7 Description: M-7-235, MT-7, MX-7-160/180/235, MXT-7-1
    Date: 05/13/2012 Time: 2303
    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: HANOVER State: MI Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON A FORCED LANDING, STRUCK A TREE AND CRASHED ONTO THE LAKE, HANOVER, MI

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: DETROIT, MI (GL23) Entry date: 05/16/2012
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    Unless there is still ice on the lake shouldn't that be crashed "into" the lake?

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    Whatever you think of Maules & Maule-drivers, we can learn from their mistakes. The airplane is registered in NY, but the accident happened in Utah, long way from home.


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    Notice created 5/18/2012 Notice 4
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 7ZF Make/Model: M7 Description: M-7-235, MT-7, MX-7-160/180/235, MXT-7-1
    Date: 05/06/2012 Time: 2130
    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: BRIGHAM CITY State: UT Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, BRIGHAM CITY, UT

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SALT LAKE CITY, UT (NM07) Entry date: 05/18/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    That's the first groundloop fatality I've ever heard of

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    Wasn't a fatality-- Crew 1 fatal 0
    Never mind, its not worth it !!!

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    Sorry, yup I read it wrong. Thanks

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    No SuperCubs, but sort of similar. Memorial Day weekend is coming up and I know everyone has plans to fly somewhere. Please, please, please, be careful, do a real pre-flight (including WX & TFRs), and check fuel and get some more if there's any doubt. Have fun this weekend!


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    Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 9
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 170ED Make/Model: C170 Description: CESSNA 170B
    Date: 05/19/2012 Time: 1730 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: WINTERVILLE State: NC Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT CRASHED INTO TREES, NEAR WINTERVILLE, NC

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: GREENSBORO, NC (SO05) Entry date: 05/21/2012


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    Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 19
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 71642 Make/Model: L8A Description: LUSCUMBE SILVAIRE 8A
    Date: 05/21/2012 Time: 0432 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Minor

    LOCATION
    City: MCNEIL ISLAND State: WA Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED ON AN ISLAND, MCNEIL ISLAND, WA

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SEATTLE, WA (NM01) Entry date: 05/21/2012


    ******************************
    Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 30
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 9859A Make/Model: C195 Description: 195 (LC-126)
    Date: 05/18/2012 Time: 2100 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: TIPTON State: PA Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A PARKING LOT, TIPTON, PA

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ALLEGHENY CO., PA (EA03) Entry date: 05/21/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 05-21-2012 at 01:52 PM.
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    Anne, FlipFlop will be happy to see that you've taken over! Thanks Chica!!

    I appreciate hearing that a C195 can land in a parking lot, but I have visions of Wal-mart shoppers running for their lives....

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    Parking lots & football fields - I've often wondered, as I fly over them, if they do indeed make a decent emergency landing spot. Hopefully I won't find out first-hand.

    One of our favorite types in one of our favorite places, a Beaver in Talkeetna (Rust's):


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    Notice created 5/22/2012 Notice 9
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 323KT Make/Model: DHC2 Description: DHC-2 Mk1 Beaver (U-6, L-20)
    Date: 05/21/2012 Time: 2212 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: TALKEETNA State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING NOSED OVER AND CAME BACK DOWN ONTO THE TAIL, TALKEETNA, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Business Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/22/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    In agreement with Ms. Brenda, thanx Anne... The reports are an excellent educational tool... Keep up the good work... DvD

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    FlipFlop, it's an honor to be taking this over from you. Thanks for starting the idea of a safety thread, and trying to make us more aware of "what's out there." I just wish there weren't as much to post.

    Brenda, see you in a week or so??

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    FlipFlop, it's an honor to be taking this over from you. Thanks for starting the idea of a safety thread, and trying to make us more aware of "what's out there." I just wish there weren't as much to post.

    Brenda, see you in a week or so??

    Anne.
    Sorry Anne, I would love to go, but we're having a lil' graduation shindig at the farm. Have fun!

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    ******************************
    Notice created 5/29/2012 Notice 30
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 7279K Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 05/28/2012 Time: 0310 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: TALKEETNA State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT LOST POWER IN FLIGHT AND WAS FORCED TO LAND IN A SWAMP. TALKEETNA, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/29/2012
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    ******************************
    Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 3
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    IDENTIFICATION

    Regis#: 3772Z Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7) Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 1900 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: KENAI State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT HIT A TREE DURING LANDING. KENAI, AK
    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/30/2012

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    Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 4
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 7511H Make/Model: PA12 Description: PA-12 Super Cruiser
    Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 0000 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: PALMER State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FLIPPED OVER WHILE TAXIING ON THE KNIK RIVER SANDBAR. PALMER, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Taxi Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/30/2102


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    Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 7
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 25758 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
    Date: 05/28/2012 Time: 2145 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Minor

    LOCATION
    City: PAYSON State: AZ Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT LOST CONTROL WHILE LANDING GOING OFF THE RUNWAY AND STRIKING A PARKED VEHICLE. PAYSON, AZ

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 05/30/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 05-30-2012 at 10:19 AM.
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    *****************************
    Notice created 5/31/2012 Notice 6
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 27928 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
    Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 1500 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: MCALESTER State: OK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, STRUCK A FENCE, MCALESTER, OK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: OKLAHOMA CITY, OK (SW15) Entry date: 05/31/2012

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    Notice created 5/31/2012 Notice 19
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 11YB Make/Model: PA20 Description: PA-20 Pacer
    Date: 05/30/2012 Time: 2230 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: PORT ANGELES State: WA Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, PORT ANGELES, WA

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SEATTLE, WA (NM01) Entry date: 05/31/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 05-31-2012 at 11:58 AM.
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    C'mon guys, this wasn't supposed to be a full-time job!


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    Notice created 6/1/2012 Notice 5
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 4895A Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 05/26/2012 Time: 1530 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial
    LOCATION
    City: BELMAR State: NJ Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING GROUND LOOPED, BELMAR, NJ

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: TETERBORO, NJ (EA25) Entry date: 06/01/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    ****************************
    Notice created 6/5/2012 Notice 8
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 9753A Make/Model: C170 Description: 1949 CESSNA 170A
    Date: 06/04/2012 Time: 1750 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Minor

    LOCATION
    City: HOUSTON State: TX Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING ROLLOUT, WENT OFF THE RUNWAY AND INTO A DITCH, WEISER AIR PARK, HOUSTON, TX

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER
    FAA FSDO: HOUSTON, TX (SW09) Entry date: 06/05/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    I'd like your input here: Do you prefer "Supercub-only" postings, or "Like-a-Supercub" postings?

    Thanks, Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    ****************************
    Notice created 6/7/2012 Notice 1
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 615SD Make/Model: M4 Description: MAULE M-4-220C
    Date: 05/13/2012 Time: 2100 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: STERLING State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT CRASHED ON TAKEOFF, STERLING, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 06/07/2012
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    Any situation that might be educational to us would helpful in my opinion...
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!

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    Thanks for the input, aktango, appreciate it!

    Two Supercubs & a Champ causing havoc this weekend. The Fairbanks SC is owned by the State of Alaska.


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    Notice created 6/11/2012 Notice 20
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 4456Z Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 06/08/2012 Time: 1812 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Minor

    LOCATION
    City: ELMIRA State: NY Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED ON A ROAD, NEAR ELMIRA, NY

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ROCHESTER, NY (EA23) Entry date: 06/11/2012


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    Notice created 6/11/2012 Notice 26
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 82732 Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 06/08/2012 Time: 2204 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: FAIRBANKS State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, FAIRBANKS, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: FAIRBANKS, AK (AL01) Entry date: 06/11/2012



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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 2067 Make/Model: 7AC Description: AERONCA 7AC
    Date: 06/10/2012 Time: 0112 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: DANVILLE State: VA Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT VEERED OFF THE RUNWAY AND STRUCK 3 PARKED AIRCRAFT, DANVILLE, VA

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: RICHMOND, VA (EA21) Entry date: 06/11/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 06-11-2012 at 03:51 PM.
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    Anne:
    Your taking the time and effort to research and post this info. You post what you want. If I don't like it, I can spend my own time on one!
    Your doing a fine job. Thank You.
    TJ.

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    Good to hear from you, TJ. Thanks for the comment.

    Okay, not to be preachy or anything, but looking at yesterday's description of accidents & incidents, one thing stands out: folks don't know how to land an airplane. Any airplane. I'm not pointing fingers, since I've been guilty too. The preliminary reports, which I use here, don't report winds or weather, so it's hard to tell what's the main factor, other than "Pilot Error."

    Here's the list just from one day (the boxes are just remnants of copying, not a highlight):

    AIRCRAFT WENT OFF THE RUNWAY, GREENWOOD, IN

    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD, NEAR HAZLETON, PA

    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD, NEAR HOWARD, SD

    AIRCRAFT LANDED SHORT OF THE RUNWAY, RIVERTON, WY

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, WENT OFF THE RUNWAY AND THE GEAR COLLAPSED, PHOENIX, AZ

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, WENT OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY AND STRUCK A SIGN, FULLERTON, CA

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED, LAKEWOOD, NJ

    AIRCRAFT ON A FORCED LANDING ON A HIGHWAY, STRUCK A POWERLINE, 4 MILES FROM COLFAX, WA

    AIRCRAFT LANDED IN A FIELD AND FLIPPED OVER, NEAR DELMAR, DE

    AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP, GLADWIN, MI

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, STRUCK 2 DEER, LINDEN, MI

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, STRUCK THE PROP, WESTERLY, RI

    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, SUSTAINED UNKNOWN DAMAGE, SAN ANTONIO, TX

    AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP, CHARLESTON, WV
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Okay, not to be preachy or anything, but looking at yesterday's description of accidents & incidents, one thing stands out: folks don't know how to land an airplane. Any airplane.

    Agree; I think the Feds should ban "folks" from flying any airplanes. Gary

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    Give those tourists a tale to tell....

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    Notice created 6/14/2012 Notice 5
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 121KT Make/Model: DHC2 Description: DHC-2 Mk1 Beaver (U-6, L-20)
    Date: 06/14/2012 Time: 0315 Event Type: Incident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: TALKEETNA State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED ON A SANDBAR, 5 MILES FROM TALKEETNA, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 6 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Business Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 06/14/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 06-14-2012 at 09:15 AM.
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    *****************************
    Notice created 6/18/2012 Notice 4
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 1203A Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 06/16/2012 Time: 2040 Event Type: Accident
    Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: DESHKA LANDING State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR DESHKA LANDING, AK

    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 06/18/2012
    Last edited by Anne; 06-18-2012 at 08:30 PM.
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    Too hot today, so I'll just post the short versions. More landings gone askew.

    Ntc Date Time Location Regis# Make/Mdl A/I Dmg Fatal Description

    06/19/2012 1730 NEW BERN, NC 5793C C170 I UNKN 0 AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, WENT OFF THE RUNWAY AND GROUND LOOPED, NEW BERN, NC
    06/19/2012 1440 MILLINGTON, TN 4418C C195 I UNKN 0 AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, RIGHT GEAR COLLAPSED, MILLINGTON, TN
    06/19/2012 0200 PULLMAN, WA 2580D C170 I UNKN 0 AIRCRAFT GROUND LOOPED, PULLMAN, WA
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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