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    A flat hard beach may not be as hard as it looks...

    You guys don't need me to tell you this, but I learned a lesson yesterday:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/daveberg...eat=directlink

    Best to bump your wheels ALL the way along the stretch you intend to use! This beach has been landed on thousands of times with no mishap until a guy turned over a microlight three months ago and I got bogged down yesterday. Fortunately, just a big of huffing and puffing to extract ourselves.

    It all looked pretty solid....

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    And we were just talking about keeping Wup and crew in the business of making fat tires...

    (glad you got it out okay!)

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    BritishCubBloke - Vivian and I missed you last May when we stopped by Egglesford on the spur of the moment. We did meet your friend with the 95 hp SC and the Auster expert, all nice folks. We saw your really fine SC in the hangar, very very nice! We were driving and only had a map with a small airplane on it to guide us on very narrow roads. I was sure Vivian was lost and we never would connect with this small airport when we spied a wind sock. The hangars are at a much lower elevation than the strip -- a nice taxi uphill. What a charming place. While we were there a group showed up in a vintage bus to tour the airport. Everyone very friendly on a perfect day in May.
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    More Photos of Egglesford in May.
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    Nice pictures. Landing on a beach in the UK is legal? Who'd have thunk it? Thanks for sharing!

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    I'm impressed that in England, it is still possible to land somewhere other than an airport. Neat.

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    And a few more of the charming Egglesford
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    You had quite an adventure that day. Thanks for sharing the photos, and glad there was no mishap!
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    That never would have happened with 26" tires and larger. The beach is just very wet. A few hours later in the tide and it's drier. These little tires connected with offairport opperations = watch out for trouble!!!!
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    Yeah David, you do need a set of Bushwheels. When you buy them, I would be happy to pop over and test them with you.. 8o)

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    Thanks everybody for kind words and advice. We'd love to welcome anyone at Eggesford if they're over this way. We're lucky in England and able to land anywhere we have the landowner's permission. As for beaches, well, that appears debatable, but plenty of people land on beaches and it doesn't appear to be a problem.

    As for bush wheels I would be foolish to ignore the advice of Corvus Migrans!

    Bent -- thinking of trying for Stauning again this year. Will let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishCubBloke View Post
    Thanks everybody for kind words and advice. We'd love to welcome anyone at Eggesford if they're over this way. We're lucky in England and able to land anywhere we have the landowner's permission. As for beaches, well, that appears debatable, but plenty of people land on beaches and it doesn't appear to be a problem.

    As for bush wheels I would be foolish to ignore the advice of Corvus Migrans!

    Bent -- thinking of trying for Stauning again this year. Will let you know.
    Now if we can just get some ski photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishCubBloke View Post
    As for beaches, well, that appears debatable, but plenty of people land on beaches and it doesn't appear to be a problem.
    It BECOMES a prob. when other beach-users start to complain. Spread the word to be very considerate of other Blokes on the beach.
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    Hi Glenn,

    They finished rigging the skis just as the snow went, of course. Should be ready for next time, though! We had a LOT of snow for us:

    Problem is we're snow newbies. Having skis doesn't help much if you can't open the hangar door or get the generator started to pump fuel, neither of which we could do. Or get to the airfield!

    Cheers,

    David

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    Here is a thought.
    In the summer of 1934, Reeve's exploits, including landing on mudflats (having manufactured skis from stainless steel to fit to his aircraft)

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    Landed on a nice dry sand bar in the river that we frequent often (was there less than a week ago) but yesterday was much different the sand was quite soft on roll out, to the point that I thought I had maybe lost the tail wheel (baby bush wheel)... Stopped and got out expecting a nub but nope just REALLY SOFT sand. The river conditions have not changed, we had a couple inches of snow and cold conditions for a few days before and I'm guessing that new moisture (first we've had in 7-8 months... we're really getting dry) combined with a deep freeze then first thaw cycle (it was 52 when we landed) that really loosened up the top sand. I've seen the effects of freeze thaw on compacted soils many times building roads and bridges but did not expect it to be so pronounced on moderatley compacted coarse river sand. Normal tracks on this bar are barley visible just shinny spots but yesterday even 31's were leaving a noticeable impression and the BBW was leaving a 3-4" rut! Overall, this was the second most interesting sight of the flight.
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    My experience is dry soft sand more likely to be iffy than wet hard sand nearest water. I was lucky when my 180 throttle linkage roll-pin fell out at first reduction of power after taking off from my seashore strip. The wind was making whitecaps 45 degrees to the sloping beach. I landed with right wheel on hard wet sand and left in soft dry which helped prevent weather-cocking. Generally in these parts wet sand is preferable to dry.

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