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    That hole under tha back seat

    When I bought my 12 it had/has Airtex seat covers. The cushion for the back seat had a couple of flaps that hung down to cover the gap between the seat bottom and the floor board -- you've all seen these things and even the new Legend Cubs have 'em. I hate 'em. These flaps are supposed to snap in place but the snap gizmos often either won't reach or are missing, so they really don't do much good. I cut mine off. This left a 6 inch high opening to the whole of the aft fuselage. I didn't think much about this until not long ago when I was heading home solo from a grass strip in another state. I was trying to get out ahead of a glider towplane, so I dropped my sectional down beside my seat and gave it the gas. Once clear of the field, I reached for my map but it was gone, having disappeared into the gaping orifice under the back seat. I didn't really need to the map to get home, but I wasn't too fond of the idea of it finding a home deep in the butt end of my airplane. Obviously, I needed to cover the hole. Not long after, while on a recon mission to my local Home Depot store, I stumbled upon 48" long sections of perforated vinyl rain gutter guards. They looked to be about 6 inches high and didn't weigh hardly anything per section. "Hmmm," I said to myself. So I picked up one for $1.98 and a 48" 3/4" aluminum angle and headed for the hangar. After about an hour of measuring, cutting and fitting, I had a part that perfectly filled said gap between the seat and the floor without blocking air flow through the cabin. The gutter guard has a channel along one edge that is just the right size to slip over one leg of the aluminum angle, so I screwed a couple of pieces of angle to the floorboard and put velcro along the top edge of the gutter guard and front edge of the seat bottom support, then painted the whole thing black to match my carpet. The angle holds the bottom of the part in place while the velcro holds the top. Looks great (much better than tattered vinyl flaps) like a real airplane part and now nothing in the cockpit except air can find its way into the bowels of my fuselage. Come annual time, the thing just pops right out in about a second. The part is not structural, nor is it permanently attached to the airframe. It looks good and, above all, it works. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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    Sounds Good to me, How about posting a picture.

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    That hole under the seat

    I've got a couple of pix, but don't have a clue as to how to load them here. Only way I know to get them to you would be as an attachment to a PM.[/img]

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    This is how mine is set up for the rear seat closure and rudder cable routing.

    Crash

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    The hole under the seat

    Crash

    My setup is way more K-Mart than yours. I'll admit to being cheaper and less handy with sheet metal than you are, but it works pretty well nonetheless.

    OBG

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    Re: The hole under the seat

    Quote Originally Posted by oldbaldguy
    Crash

    My setup is way more K-Mart than yours. I'll admit to being cheaper and less handy with sheet metal than you are, but it works pretty well nonetheless.

    OBG
    Your's will work just as good as mine I am sure. I went through the same thing (loosing items into the black hole) for years, so at rebuild I decided to try to block as many holes as possible. There are just too many though and I still loose dropped screws, pencils, pens or what have you and they still seem to find a hole to disappear into. Take care.

    Crash

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    Hey Crash,

    Your floor and seat base look great. What kind of plywood did you use ? It looks like your seat is about 1/4" thick. Do you get much flex in it? is it hinged ?

    Wayne

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    I have to emphasize that Crash does phenomenal work! You should see the work of art he did on my extended baggage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybynite
    Hey Crash,

    Your floor and seat base look great. What kind of plywood did you use ? It looks like your seat is about 1/4" thick. Do you get much flex in it? is it hinged ?

    Wayne
    Wayne

    The floor boards are 1/4" 10 ply Birch plywood. The hinged rear seat / under seat storage lid is 3/16" 8 ply Birch plywood. The standard rear baggage floor is 1/8" 5 ply Birch plywood and the extended rear baggage floor ( dog leg back) is .020 2024 aluminum.

    They are stained with "fruit wood" stain and spray coated with Poly Fiber epoxy varnish (very tough stuff).

    I don't get much flex in the rear seat lid or the rear baggage area using this plywood. Its very stiff for its given thickness and I like the soft old "classic" natural look that wood adds to the interior of a Cub.

    Christina

    Thanks for the nice compliment.

    Take care.

    Crash

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