I was wondering how many of you take your dog flying? I have a young boxer and was thinking of getting him use to the cub. Do those of you who take their dog or dogs use something to block the noise? Thanks Mark
I was wondering how many of you take your dog flying? I have a young boxer and was thinking of getting him use to the cub. Do those of you who take their dog or dogs use something to block the noise? Thanks Mark
A muzzle should keep him from barking too much....
sj
"Often Mistaken, but Never in Doubt"
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Ya know those dogs that like to hang out the window of a car?
Maybe you better crate him. If you're handy with external loads, that might be a way to go.
-->Aaron
My last dog loved to fly he would load on command and was always eager to go with. We had many great flights together he loved going to new airports and checking out the local hangers for dog treats. Of course he never marked a piper tire but marked almost every Cessna in the State of Alaska (good dog). I hope your dog likes flying as much as mine did.
Cub_Driver
Lots of happy Fly Dog Pics...
http://sparky.supercub.org/photopost...ry.php?cat=574
their ears seem to be fine - it don't bother them one bit.
Here's a story I posted in 2004:
About 30 years ago, I was hanging around the airpatch hitching rides and bumming stick time in exchange for humping cargo, when the owner of a Beaver got a request to haul a hippy musher/trapper and his dogs and things out to his remote cabin where he was going to spend the winter. This particular plane was set up for hauling tourists around; nice seats; kind of foofy, (if you could possibly attach that adjective to ANY DeHaviland product). When there weren't any tourists, the seats and carpet came out and it became a hauler - for whatever could be found to haul for a buck. I went along whenever I could, helping with loading, fueling, etc. (I was young and foolish). Sometimes I got to fly when there weren't any passengers.
Hippy musher's girlfriend goes out first with most of the supplies, then the plane returns and the hippy musher and the dogs are next, with a few things tied down behind the left seat; mostly dog food bags. We put in another seat for me on the right in the front, and hippy musher gets the right seat (it's his charter). The pilot declines to secure the dogs, claiming everything will be fine, has lots of experience in these matters, they'll be okay, etc. The dogs have never been in an airplane. "No problemo" is uttered.
Picture twelve stinky, high-strung sled dogs running around in a Beaver, happy as little girls, watching out the windows even after the engine starts and we're taxiing around the lake warming up.
Until the power comes up.
They all get real small, quiet and big-eyed, feet splayed - for about as long as it takes to get off the lake, then they panic en masse. Dogs scream in terror, as though they are being flayed alive. Two of them decide that they want to go through the little fabric cover with snaps that leads to the tail cone, and maybe camp there or something. Hijinks ensues! Suspecting that this may result in some sort of undesirable aeronautical effect - crashing, perhaps, - hippy musher leaps out of his assigned FAA approved seat goes back to extract them, grabbing the column and stepping pretty hard on the right rudder pedal on his way back (while we're climbing through 50') and spends the rest of the trip sitting on the FAA approved floor in an unapproved manner, trying, with limited success, to restore order among his subjects. Some of the dogs, in their excitement, develop substantial leaks. Pilot speechlessly trims frantically and maintains control; soldiers on in silence, a grim look of determination on his face. I remained motionless, not wanting to add to the confusion.
Several times during the hour-long trip, he ordered said passenger back to his assigned seat in a loud whisper, while staring strait ahead, with about 45 inches of manifold pressure. I swear he did. About halfway there, two of the dogs overcome their terror and seize the opportunity for romance and join the mile-high club. Or, at least the 1500' AGL club. (They're dogs - they can't read altimeters). When we get to the lake where they're spending the winter, they seem to have grown fond of flying, and they don't wish to deplane! More hijinks ensues now that pilot ( owner of now very stinky Beaver) has completed his piloting duties, practices the rare art of dog pitching, to see if they know how to fly or swim. I can report that they had sufficient flying airspeed but most failed to rotate and thus demonstrated various techniques of water landings and taxiing to the beach.
We returned without further conversation or incident, with a large volumn of bracing cabin ventilation, and spent the rest of the day and part of the next cleaning the inside of the airplane. When finished, Owner of Beaver gave me a $100 bill. (It was the first time I ever made any money working on airplanes. And the last.)
Hippy dogmusher's check bounced, I heard later.
Owner of Beaver declined further requests to transport dogs, and they all lived happily ever after!
The End.
(As with any good story, this one may actually be true)
Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum videtur
When flying my Kinner powerd 1929 americn eagle. I made the mistake of using too long of lead to hold my husky in the front seat. Next thing i know he is on the wing walk, half standing / flying.I cut power a landed in wheat field and shortend up his lead. I got the husky in Alaska in 1974 while selling pa12 n3647M i had rebuilt it my self and was a senior in high school. No i could never keep anything over his ears!
I am about to find out. I fly to NYC Tues in the C-170 to get our new lab pup. Wed morning he gets ripped away from his mom and siblings, and gets his first 7 or 8 hours of flying time. I feel sorry for the little fella. I will be trying to make it as easy as possible for him. Hope he does OK. Photos to follow
Bill
IMO, Dogs and aircraft go together naturally .
I had been thinking of carefully placing to big cotton balls in each ear. This I think would muffle the sharpness of the engine noise. Mark
Dogs should have dogphones of some sort. Heck, the clinking tags on their collars can cause hearing damage. . . no foolin'.
Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum videtur
My wife has a dog and the dog flies with us sometimes and likes it. My wife worries about the effect of the airplane noise on the dog's hearing but the dog won't keep cotton balls in her ears -- always shakes them out. The vet says that dogs hear over a wider range of sounds but that they don't hear any louder than people so therefore airplane noise won't hurt the dog much unless it gets exposed to alot of it... which is true for people too.
My 12 year-old Samoyed goes almost everywhere with me, be it airplanes, boats, or snowmachines. That dog is almost totally deaf. As he approaches the end of his life, and the thought of another dog enters the picture, I won't do anything differently. If I'm going somewhere, I want my dog with me. If you knew my deaf dog, you'd know that he LIVES to go with me, and hearing loss doesn't seem to bother him a bit.
My dog's more than a pet. He's a companion.
SB
Well said SB, my chocolate Lab Libby is considered part of the family. She also likes to go with whenever I leave the yard. Be it in the truck, plane, 4-wheeler, etc.... She truely is mans best friend !!!!
Slowmover
Are you back in the states? Good to see you online how was your tour?
Cub_Driver
DOGS WANT TO GO!!
A while back I caught a PBS show on the first car to go coast to coast, it was in 1908 or thereabouts as I recall. You can imagine the difficulties they encountered on the primitive roads combined with the state of the art car. One thing that made it easier/better the two drivers said afterward was the Dog they allowed to go with them, he served as a mascot, and an ice breaker, the Dog had it all figured out from the get go. Anyone want to bet that the first wheeled conveyance of any sort (chariot??) dind't have a Dog
along for the ride? Mine goes everwhere, car, truck, boat, rafts, motorcycles, planes of course, hot air balloons you name it. At nearly 15 he's pretty deaf but so am I.
Well, Luke made it home just fine. Right after TO he just fell asleep til landing. Same for each of the three legs. I think I will try to teach him to wear earplugs. Puppys are great. With a little patience you can teach them just about anything. Wonder if I can teach him to identify Huskies, and to pee on the tire? Just Kidding....
Bill
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Duke the Ol Bear Dog is POed cause the Old Man won't let him drive!
Here is a picture taken in 79H last night of Barnie my Lahsa Apsho after a hard day of pike fishing heading home.
BTW, a 16lb Lahsa is a perfect "cub sized" dog. He now has about 150 hours, and 9 hours this week. Although I will admit he has a face only a owner will love!
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PA-12 fan
Yeah I was back in the states, now I am back in the desert. We are doing 120 days on/120 days off. Sure miss the cub flying when I'm over here. I was telling somebody the other day that with big tires you can land just about everywhere over here, not that you'd want to.Originally Posted by cub_driver
I'll be home next month, get to spend the winter with the wife and the cub, be back here in February.
My dog rides in the baggage compartment but sometimes ends up in the back seat after a loop. Yard Dart
Definately take the dog.
http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUC..._with_fido.wmv
When in the Navy at the South Pole we flew dog teams all over the pole for the New Zealanders and we always tied thoses 135# dogs down good. Never knew when one would get free and start running around the plane. We also tried to keep the cabin very warm to help sedate thoses little rascles. Ive got more stories about how a huskie marks their territory when in the plane or when they are leaving the plane.
I had a Lab/Golden cross attempt to exit the plane on downwind and 1000' AGL He had gotten used to getting exited and putting his face against the door as I power back cause that means DUCKS to him. I have an Attlee door latch and he put enough pressure on the door that it blew open. The door opening was his signal to exit. He tried but I snagged his collar so he got enough of his body out that I could not bring him back. He's a big dog and weighs close to 100lbs. I landed with him hanging out the door. It was quite entertaining.
I could just hear the wife and kids asking - Dad Where's The Dog?? when I got home.
I put him on a short leash to the cross bar and fixed my unreliable door latch after that.
Jerry
If it looks smooth...it might be
If it looks rough...it is!!
Hey folks,
I found this in my weekly ePilot. Maybe this will keep my dog a little happier in the Skywagon.
DOG IS MY COPILOT: HEARING PROTECTION FOR THE FURRY ONE
If you've ever flown with your dog, you may have worried about damage to the animal's hearing. Michele McGuire of Westminster, Maryland, says she has a solution: Mutt Muffs ( http://www.safeandsoundpets.com ). Think of the product as a headset for your dog, minus the intercom capability, of course. The ear cups, which come in several sizes, fit over the ears and are held in place with a chin strap. The product sells for $52. McGuire says she has tried to have the product tested at independent labs, but researchers have no way to gather data from the dogs. The product is made from regular headset materials, and she recently told "The Frederick News-Post" that the muffs reduce noise by an estimated 21 to 24 decibels. Coupled with that is her anecdotal experience with her own dog, a much happier copilot these days.
What has the AOPA done for me lately? Heh... seems they even got my dog covered.
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