N3150P Expermental PA11

Roger Peterson · Feb 20, 2012

Thought I would start a thread where I could keep posting picts until we get it up to a point where it starts to look as nice as Bill's Cub.Olibuilt, I am putting in a complete Dynon Skyview system with VP-X Sport and the autopilot. A little overkill for a PA11, but at 74 I figureI had better start now if I want to play with these new fangled toys.

Front view of the Capstan Pitch Servo

Top view of the same

The modified fairlead to keep the bell crank from moving the cable too much.

Dynon wants you to use their Pitot Tube for their AOA to be right so built new jury struts that would let usmount their 3/4" Pitot tube. Cut off about a foot of their tube.

Another View of Jury Strut

Still another view

and the last view.

Just moving the picts of the Ray Allen Pos 12 trim indicator to this thread

View of the McMaster Carr gear motor used for Trim. 50 RPM

Another view of the POS 12 indicator.

greenhorn · Feb 20, 2012

looking good...keep the info coming i will be interested to follow your progress

Roger Peterson · Feb 29, 2012

The seats are from a Piper Tomahawk

The rear seat in the down position

Front seat in the down Position and a index finger.

Side view of the seats

Roger Peterson · Feb 29, 2012

Rear Seat in Up Position

Front Seat in Up Position

Front seat up showing Dakota Cub Brakes

Just wanted to see what the 10" SkyvView would look Like

Roger Peterson · Feb 29, 2012

Showing Right and Left Windows with Gas Spring

Same with Windows Open

Same with Windows Closed

Future Home of Battery Compartment with Seat in Up Position
Batteries have been in my other plane for 7 years and I changed
them just so I didn't get stuck on some lake up in Canada. Still test
over 80% so putting them in this one. One starts it fine, so I figured
two would be better.

Same with Seat Down

Side view of batteries.
Will have room for my Aileron Servo under Seat also.

Bill Rusk · Feb 29, 2012

I like it. Great stuff Roger. Thanks for posting. If you unclick the box that says "retrieve the remote file and reference locally" the photos will come out larger and be easier for those old guys to see (note I am not including myself :smile

Why the dual battery?

I like the pitot mount

Neat idea on the seats

Gas strut windows hugh? Neat

Talk us through some of this stuff or did I miss it in another thread? Great stuff. Thanks again for taking the time to post it all.

Bill

nesincg · Feb 29, 2012

I'm pretty sure my next build will be experimental. It'd be neat to put all those toys on there without worry of certification.

I think your jackscrew triangle (whatever thats called) is upside down. Maybe it doesn't matter on those Dakota cub ones.

Roger Peterson · Feb 29, 2012

Bill Rusk said:
I like it. Great stuff Roger. Thanks for posting. If you unclick the box that says "retrieve the remote file and reference locally" the photos will come out larger and be easier for those old guys to see (note I am not including myself :smile

Why the dual battery?

I like the pitot mount

Neat idea on the seats

Gas strut windows hugh? Neat

Talk us through some of this stuff or did I miss it in another thread? Great stuff. Thanks again for taking the time to post it all.

Bill

Bill will you give me a little more help on where to find "retrieve the remote file and reference locally" so I can fix it.
I went to the dual bat on my first one because the battery looked so small I figured it could never get me through the summer. Well they were still working great after 7 years but I put in a couple of new ones anyway. I just hate to get stuck up in the middle of nowhere and have to start hand propping the plane. I also had way to much elect junk in the first one. I am putting both of them in this one because I have room and want to see how much longer they will last.

I put gas springs on the first one and really like them. Also my wife could never reach out far enough to unhook the latch on the J3. No problem with these.

I am getting all the Dynon stuff in tomorrow so will start having some fun doing the panel. Should get all the little stuff finish welded this weekend and then off the the powder coating.

Going to be a little heaver on the fuselage than you but don't have much up front for motor. Putting a Aeromatic Prop on this one. It does not pull quite as good getting off the water as my 76AK-2-40 Sensenich, but should really help in Cruse.

The motor is the same as I have been running in my old one with 9.5 /1 pistons and a 530788 cam. Also straight pipes. Have no problems getting it off the water at over 2,000 lbs. Never tried for altitude though.

Bill Rusk · Feb 29, 2012

Roger

Thanks for the info. I will be following your panel build as I am leaning towards the skyview myself.

I have heard good things about the Aeromatic. Should work well.

You may be doing your photos different than me and I am probably the one making it harder than necessary. I still struggle a bit with computer literacy. I upload my pics to SC.org first. Then I open two SC.org links. One for the post and one to retrieve the picture links. I go to my photo album and enlarge the photo I want one size up from the little 1" square size. Right click on that larger photo and "copy image address" Then go to your post. When you click on the picture icon (insert image) then you get the little box that has two options "From Computer/From URL". Click on "From URL" and it gives a line to paste your image address that you just copied. Right below this is the little box with a checkmark that says.....

"retrieve remote file and reference locally".

Uncheck that box.

Give it a try. I think you'll like it.

Bill

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Thanks, will give it a try. I have been uploading direct to the post and keep getting errors if I go too big. Using a Mac though, who knows.
Not smart enough for a PC.

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Trying a new way to post picts.
It works

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Longwinglover · Mar 1, 2012

nesincg said:
I think your jackscrew triangle (whatever thats called) is upside down.

For a factory Cub, I'd agree. Maybe Roger has something different foing on?

John Scott

Bill Rusk · Mar 1, 2012

I LIKE IT!!!

:smile::smile::smile:

Bill

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Will take some picts today and post. The important thing is that the leading edge of the horizontal stab come down to touch the upper longeron.
I have put them in wrong and it did not fly good. Arm got tired pulling on the stick.

Super11XP · Mar 1, 2012

Hi Roger, You have a neat looking project. I heard of one other guy that used tomahawk seats. I'm curious, how much do they weigh? They look pretty comfortable.

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

The total of the 2 seats is 25 lbs. The cushions are 16 lbs so the seats and the mounting tubes are 9 lbs. The cushions are the good 3" foam and it is extra heavy and worth all of it.

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

This is the way I mounted the jackscrew and it lets the leading edge of the stab come down and touch the longeron. This is in the full down position.

Same in the up position

The following is the jack screw reversed and it will not lower all the way.

Same in the up position.

This is how I mounted mine because it worked for me. This should not be used as a sample of how it should be mounted in yours.

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Some picts of my aileron servo mount. Have a 1" lever arm on the servo and a 2.75" lever arm on the torque tube.

Roger Peterson · Mar 1, 2012

Decided to add some bigger inspection / work holes around the tail as we have never used this type of elect trim before.

Roger Peterson · Mar 2, 2012

Just unpacked all the Dynon stuff for the new instrument panel. I think the majority of the weight is wire.
Interesting that the cost of the stuff on the table is exactly 10 times what I paid for my first cub.
I guess that really dates me.

Roger Peterson · Mar 10, 2012

Finally got a chance to get a few more things done on the project. Got the boot cowl support built and the top of the cowl in place. Also the frame for the front panel is done. The instrument panel will be removable in 3 pieces and the bottom plates that has everything mounted to them will come out in 3 pieces. All harness will be long enough to remove everything.My Son took his first flight while having a beer in the reclining front seat.

sburg58 · Mar 10, 2012

Experienced a fantastic day visiting with Roger and his wife Alverna. Rog and I played with his new Dynon after he set it up for the bench test. Great fun putting it through its paces. Heck, we even found out if he flies 321 degrees for 1757 miles or so he will be at my house. With his new autopilot he just needs to program it, sit back and sleep for a while, then have it wake him up in time to land. Looks like Craig has it figured out, set autopilot lean back with a beer and enjoy the ride. I also checked out all the neat innovative ideas and mods he and Craig are putting in this project. Makes me yearn to build another.

While we played, Alverna took my wife shopping. We later were treated to our first up close and personal Texas Rodeo in Bay City. Great Cub, great day, and Great Friends whom, we met through this great site. Thanks guys!

Stan

T.J. · Mar 10, 2012

Neat. I've never seen a TV in a PA-11 before!

Roger Peterson · Mar 12, 2012

Just finished the hinge on the Skyview and the removable panels to place the electronics on.

http://www.supercub.org/photopost/data/1184/P1010940.jpg

Bill Rusk · Mar 12, 2012

Now that is pretty darn cool.

Thanks Roger

Bill

Roger Peterson · Mar 15, 2012

Finished mounting front brake pedals. Ran a 4130 tube all the way through them and supported it in the middle.
Finished making the proto Kydex panels for the swing out instrument panel. Mount all push pull controles under the inst panel so it would not inter fear with the swing out feature.
Can see some of the 1 gal 4" header tank also made out of 4" irrigation tubing.

Olibuilt · Mar 16, 2012

Very nice work. So nice to have detailled picture. It really helps for building.

Roger Peterson · Mar 16, 2012

What I like about experimental is that there is no right or wrong way, just try what you think will work best for you. Might be a good idea, might not, but you can still give it a try.

King Brown · Mar 16, 2012

Waiting too long before going experimental seems like half of a wasted lifetime to me. An exaggeration perhaps but it lifted my spirits, removed all the burdens of flying.

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