sj
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Crash said:What about survival gear, did he have any to speak of? I think they need to do some serious review of their pilot training program.
Crash
marc said:my hats off to you guys we need more people like you my dad neighbor found the kim family John rasher marc
kase said:Never did see the aircraft. On a night x-country at 7500' and hit a 7600' hill. Was going to go look for it after he was rescued but the mountain was obscured and starting to snow pretty good.
kase said:Crash said:What about survival gear, did he have any to speak of? I think they need to do some serious review of their pilot training program.
Crash
He had a survival pack. The bright orange tarp is how they found him. I looked at google earth and he walked down a 1400' vertical drop in a distance of about a mile. Once he got out of the tree line they picked him up with a helicopter and flew him down to the road where the ambulance was.
Never did see the aircraft. On a night x-country at 7500' and hit a 7600' hill. Was going to go look for it after he was rescued but the mountain was obscured and starting to snow pretty good.
Billings Gazette said:Scheffer, a freshman, is an experienced pilot, said Dan Hargrove, director of the Rocky aviation program, ------- He has 150 hours of flight time.
Scooter7779h said:Not to Monday morning quarterback, but I agree with Crash. One of the very first lessons I learned from my mentors when I started to fly in the early 70's in AK was: Always dress to fly like you are going to spend the day or next few days outside. That is wisdom that has saved my butt more than once. Even if you make a pre-cautionary landing out there due to weather or whatever, you need to have with you what you need to get by. I have always lived by that sage advice, and the gear you wear or have with you varies depending on the season.
I took this wise advice to heart, along with many others that I received from my mentors who were long time Alaska bush pilots. I remember going for flight lessons in the winter of 74' at AeroTech in a C-150 dressed in arctic gear including Bunny Boots, wool bibs, long underwear and an expedition parka. The Flight Instructor was dressed in wing-tips, tie, and slacks. He (Ron Haney who became the founder of the UAA Aviation program) said "you can't fly in all of that stuff", and I said, I am going to have to, as this is the logical approach and based on the wisdom of pilots I respect, and have lived through the years of flying in Alaska. I asked him: If we go down west of Pt McKenzie, who is going to have the best sense of survival, you or me?. So I learned to fly in Bunny Boots, and we put the parka in the back of the 150.
I do not understand the current younger generation. During the winter I see kids in my neighborhood standing waiting for a school bus at 0F or below, in shorts with no coat shivering their a$$ off. I shake my head and think, what kinda intelligence have we spawned?
Off the soapbox.
steve said:I'm impressed with you guys. It must be really great to not make mistakes. I made a pretty serious mistake as a 100 hour pilot. I'm glad to have lived through it and to this day benefit from the lessons it taught me. I wish I had had your foresight to keep me from screwing up, but I was not so lucky.
My days of being young and invincible occurred long before I started flying. I probably would have been a statistic of natural selection if I had started sooner. With age comes some wisdom, but we often forget that we were once much the same as this young man - in our own ways.
sj
by the way, I've got another certificate for Steaks at the Jersey Lilly if anyone wants to come help me use it)
SteveE said:by the way, I've got another certificate for Steaks at the Jersey Lilly if anyone wants to come help me use it)
Brian, I am sure Dave could convince a couple of folks to show up.