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porti
11-09-2007, 01:37 PM
I see that Desser has 26" goodyear smooth tundra tire for $483.95 including tube !!! how are these tires compared to 850 x 6 or the 26" abw

Brian Fox
11-09-2007, 01:42 PM
I installed them on my cub a few days ago. Another member on this site suggested that I give them a try as he has had them on his cub for awhile and liked them. I fly primarily on pavement and so needed a tire that hopefully will not wear out too quickly. While I would love to have a nice set of 31" bushwheels, I can't justify them yet with all of the pavement operations that I do. In short, so far, I really like them :D

Brian

Tom
11-09-2007, 01:50 PM
Are these tires mounted on 3" extended gear or on the standard gear?

Could you upload a picture? I have a set of worn out 8.50s on my plane and will be looking at replacement tires soon.

Thanks.

Bill Rusk
11-09-2007, 05:03 PM
This is a picture of a Goodyear 26" next to the Alaska Bushwheels 26".

Lots of difference in size.

Bill

http://www.supercub.org/photopost/data//500/medium/Rusche_tires.jpg

redrooster
11-09-2007, 08:36 PM
What's the difference in weight: 26" GY with tube ($970/pair) versus 26" BW ($2700/pair) versus 26" BW-Airstreak ($2K /pair) ?

Rooster

Clyde and Susan
11-09-2007, 08:46 PM
I would also like to know the relative weights. Are the Goodyear tires STC'd for the Cubs? ...Clyde Davis

Alaska_Rallyer
11-09-2007, 08:52 PM
Yeah Bill i can really see the "lots" of difference in that Esher photograph.
http://www.supercub.org/photopost/data/500/tires.JPG

Flying Miss Daisy
11-10-2007, 08:11 AM
Both my cub and Georges have the 26" Goodyears. I have found the difference in flying with Steve on 31" ABW that he has a tremendous more movement in his tires when we landed on a gravel bar. I do not know how I would stack up against the ABW 26". The Goodyear's do have an STC that I purchased through Vera at CC.
Overseas Guy Cliff has now operated on both I wonder what he feels about the difference.
I also know that a fellow instructing off a partially paved grass strip wore out a set of 31"ABW'S in the first year. Come to find out the operations on the pavement while taxiing was blamed for this problem. But that was a costly realization for him. I understand that the folks at ABW gave him some relief on the replacement but it was still costly.
While I would like to try a set to go between both cubs I think new seats in Miss Daisy are in order first.
Thanks
John

Bill Rusk
11-10-2007, 08:27 AM
8.5 w/ tube is about 13.5 pds each
26 GY w/ tube about 26 each
26 ABW no tube required is about 26 each
Note that the ABW tire is much larger for the same weight

Lots of info on tire weights on this site. Search tire and weight.

Hope this helps

Bill

Torch
11-10-2007, 12:59 PM
I know an old guy in Kotzebue that has been flying Super Cubs since I was a little guy. He has the Goodyear tires. I asked him about them and he said they get him in and out of places just fine. There are places he goes that no one else wants to. I think a pilot's skills and proficiency has more to do with getting in and out of places with big tires. But I am a float guy so what do I know. I trust the old guys that have been doing this for a long time.

Clyde and Susan
11-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Alaska_Rallyer:
If you could angle the lines so that the lower parallel line intersects the axle center in both wheels then it can be seen that there is actually not much difference in the size. The big difference is price and perhaps performance. ...Clyde Davis

Flying Miss Daisy
11-10-2007, 06:31 PM
I was warned when I bought and installed the Goodyears to be careful about spinning a tube and slicing the valve stem off. I have marked the the sidewall in relation to the hub. I keep the pressure at 8-10 PSI and normally watch it.
My flying skill has not progressed beyond these tires and honestly I like them.
John

skukum12
11-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Overlaying the lines on the comparison photo is indeed showing the difference between the tires. What some posters don't realize is that the pic illustrates the big difference between a tire that is genuinely 26 inches tall and one that only claims to be.

Carey Gray
11-10-2007, 08:18 PM
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Clyde and Susan
11-11-2007, 08:51 PM
The center of the axial of the Bush Wheel is almost 3" above the axial of the Goodyear wheel axial. If you measure up from the axial center of the Goodyear tire/wheel to the lower line and then measure up from the top of the Goodyear tire to the upper line, the difference in the two measurements is the difference in the diameter of the two tires. There is an optical illusion at work here too. If you put the BW tire behind the Goodyear tire the difference will not seem so much in spite of the different axial position. ...Clyde

scout88305
11-11-2007, 09:38 PM
WWHunters Champ just went on 26" Bushwheels
Just what the hell is a Super Champ :roll:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/onceacop/Float_flying_and_visitors_at_strip_.jpg

SJ
11-11-2007, 10:12 PM
CAUTION: YOU ARE ENTERING THE PERSONAL OPINION ZONE:

I have worn out 3 sets of 26" goodyears, and two sets of 31" Bushwheels.

Based on my experience, I will replace my current cord exposed 31" Bushwheels with a set of 31" Bushwheels.

Yep they cost more, yep I really don't need them, but BOY HOWDY do I like having them on the plane.

sj

P.S. Bill, Wup, & Nicole - Please don't ship these new tires yet, I am in a state of austerity at the moment and will continue to cruise around on the cords for a few more months...

Flying Miss Daisy
11-11-2007, 10:13 PM
What are you saying Steve.......Size does matter

SJ
11-11-2007, 10:14 PM
John Meade,

That was me throwing the prop in reverse that caused you to feel the forward pitching moment... 8)

I have never understood people complaining about BW's being too draggy on hard surfaces. Never really had any problem with that myself. You are trying to get stopped... drag is good....

sj

SJ
11-11-2007, 10:15 PM
What are you saying Steve.......Size does matter

So I keep being told... over and over again...

sj

mvivion
11-11-2007, 10:50 PM
See---I KNEW IT!!!! Steve HAS been having waaaayyyy too much fun. Either that or he's really hard on tires.... :lol: .

Steve, I'm with you on the "grip" of big tires on paved surfaces. Yes, you have to be prepared for a bit of grip when you first touch, but it's certainly manageable and as you say--the point is to stop.

MTV

Widebody
11-11-2007, 11:36 PM
With the flying I've been doing lately, I put my 26" GY's back on just to gain that 2 or 3 mph back. BUT they're coming back off and the 31" ABW's are going back on. I just can't stand the way everything feels rough on the ground with the GY's and I don't want any PSI crap, they're just plain harder than ABW's. When I wear out my ABW's I'll do like Steve and buy another set. To me, there is NO comparison. But if I have to work a lot of asphalt I'll throw my GY's on. I didn't know you could wear a set of GY's out, Steve must be doing burn outs :D . The stress that ABW's relieve from the airframe alone is worth the $$ not to mention it makes your Cub look really HORNY 8) . Super Champs even HORN up :lol:

Brad

Jon B.
11-12-2007, 08:53 AM
I'm the guy that took the photo that Bill Rusk posted (with my cell phone). There's no "optical illusion". The ABW tires are a lot taller and wider than Goodyear 26-inch tires. They actually do stand 26 inches (or more, depending upon pressure) rather than 23-24 for the GY.

Yes, it's true that the GY has Mark Rusche's -12 sitting on them, so are somewhat compressed. Even so, the ABW tires *are* mo' bigger.

Are the Bushwheels worth the extra two kilo-bucks? That's entirely up to the buyer.

Jon B.

RedEye
11-14-2007, 01:56 AM
I fly primarily on pavement and so needed a tire that hopefully will not wear out too quickly. While I would love to have a nice set of 31" bushwheels, I can't justify them yet with all of the pavement operations that I do. In short, so far, I really like them :D

Brian

Do they actually work on a Gulfstream ??? :o

Brian Fox
11-14-2007, 06:39 AM
Do they actually work on a Gulfstream ???

Only if I put them under some of the passengers bags :o

Brian