Whats up with Browning

[teeweed]

The other day my son, a couple of friends and I, were out shooting clays. His Browning B2000 basically blew up in his face! Looking over the gun it looked like two shells were somehow forced into the barrel. These were Federal light loads. Called Browning and they said, "send it to us." We packed it up and mailed the gun only to get it back 3 weeks later with a note saying, that they no longer worked on this gun. I was shocked!!!! I have always like Browning but after this I won't buy one. Why did they even ask me, to send it to them? Also the extractor pin that had broken during the mishape was now gone. I called them and asked them to send it, they said to have a local gunsmith fix it and they would look for the broken part and send it. Never happened. I guess the reason I am posting this, is to ask if others out there might have had a B2000 and had any problems. Mark 1-979-826-3277

[sharp]

I don't have the B2000, but sent a A-Bolt 300WSM in for trigger repair. The trigger was broken during a glass bedding job :oops:
The browning trigger is a cast part, no longer machined steel. It took about 6 weeks to get repaired. Carter's Country sent 3 guns in for trigger repair during the same week! Seems like machining and quality are going downhill.
Sharp

[Cubdude]

Just get a Beretta...

http://sparky.supercub.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=8840&cat=500&ppuser=2322

I would hate to hunt with this guy...everything would be dead before I get off a shot.


CD

[Greg Smith]

Just get a Beretta...

http://sparky.supercub.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=8840&cat=500&ppuser=2322

I would hate to hunt with this guy...everything would be dead before I get off a shot.

CD
GAWD!

That looks like the old Benelli design.

Don't let Dick Cheney see that...

[Alex Clark]

I have had several students on the range blow up guns with multi rounds in the barrels.
With a 12 gauge I have seen it twice with somebody somehow getting a 16 gauge shell into the mix. These are just small enough to chamber and pass down the bore a ways.

I have seen the same thing with Glocks on the range. Somebody with a .40 cal Glock picks up a 9mm round from one of his range neighbors. This round gets stuck in the magazine and half way through the magazine it gets chambered. It goes down the barrel and click. So they do a failure to feed drill, and the next round goes off behind it.
I had a student's Glock do that next to my head while I was knelling down between two students during a stress-fire shoot-off.
It held together better than I thought it would and I only was hit by a couple of small pieces of the trigger assembly.

If two 12 gauge shells actually made it into the chamber and barrel at one time, that gun is a real POS. Unless you are talking about a standard double feed where the chamber does not close and somehow it went off anyway. That is still scarey but caused by a different problem.

[teeweed]

Alex...I was there and saw it happen. My son was shooting low brass federals which were brand new. I was throwing the clays up. Out of the corner of my eye I saw white smoke and heard a weird almost muffled sound. After checking with my son to see if he was ok. We looked at the gun. You visiable see two smashed shells lodged half way up the chamber. Then we noticed the gun was not all there. We looked around and found the extractor lever about 10 feet away in the dirt. I am on my own repairing this gun. Browning acts like the B2000 never exsisted. I'm just glade my son still has his arm and eyes. Mark

[Alex Clark]

The chamber must have been totally oversized. OR, it failed and cracked (or expanded) on the round fired before that, without totally letting go. The the next couple of rounds somehow double fed.

Sounds like a couple of letters to the company big wigs would be in order.

My cousin does R&D for them. I should ask him what he thinks happened...

[Alex Clark]

This might help determine the manufacture year.

I checked with my cousin and he said that they have not made the B2000 for years and years. Plus they apparently did not make that many. So parts are like hens teeth...


B-2000 Automatic
1974 D 20 Gauge
C 12 Gauge
E 28 Gauge
G .410 Bore


Dating Browning Firearms Post 1958 Manufacture

This dating system is for Browning firearms manufactured after 1958.
Most early Browning serial numbers contained no date or model information and can not be dated using this system.

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1958 to 1968 - The last digit of the year was used. (Code "8" is duplicated for 1958 and 1968.)

Example: Serial number 8G12345:

8 = Year of manufacture (1958)
G = Model
12345 = Serial number

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1968 to 1975 - The last two digits of the year was used,

Example: Serial number 69B12345:

69 = Year of manufacture (1969)
C = Model
12345 = Serial number

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1975 - All product codes were changed to 3 digits and new (letter) date codes were adopted.

Example: Serial number 151RT1234

RT = Year of manufacture (1976)
151 = Model
1234 = Serial number

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1975 Information Sequence
European and U.S. manufactured firearms:
Product Code Year Serial Number

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Japanese manufactured firearms:
Serial Number Year Product Code

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1975 Date Codes
Z = 1
Y = 2
X = 3
W = 4
V = 5
T = 6
R = 7
P = 8
N = 9
M = 0 / 10



Alex

[Alex Clark]

Browning B2000 History

The production of the B-2000 Automatic Shotgun began in late 1973. Production ceased in 1980.


Date Historic Information Serial Number Info
1974-1975 1968 started using two digits for the date of manufacture which was followed by a one digit code that identified the type of B-2000.
D=20 gauge
C=12 gauge
Example: 00001C47 = A 1974 B-2000 12 ga. shotgun with a serial number of 00001 D=20 gauge
C=12 gauge
1976-1980 In 1976 Browning re-standardized its serial number identification. The B-2000 was discontinued in 1980.
1. B-2000 Type 611=12 ga. & Mag. 12 ga.
631=20ga. & Mag. 20 ga.
641=Trap 12 ga.
6B1=Skeet 12 ga.
6B2=Skeet 20 ga.
2. Date of Manufacture
is a two digit code Z=1
Y=2
X=3
W=4
V=5
T=6
R=7
P=8
N=9
M=0
3. Serial Number
beginning with 01001
at the start of each year.
Serial
Number Example:
641RT01001

This would be an B-2000 Trap 12 ga.,manufactured in 1976 with the serial number 01001.