irishfield
Registered User
Penetanguishene, Ontario Canada
Nice sunny day this morning so I plugged in my preheater and headed to the shop. Squalls were on their way when I poked my head out the door about 4 hours later and wasn't going to miss the opportunity for a quick flight so pulled the plane out, jumped in and fired her up.
Started right away, but I had that mental feeling something wasn't right. Amp gauge jumped over to 30A and I brushed it off as the first run in quite awhile and cold. Volt gauge always needs a light tap to get it off the seat and then it's fine, but this time it only got to 10volts. Again shrudged it off as a cold instrument sticking. There I sat for almost 10 minutes letting everything warm up before heading into the snow. Now I thought I smelled something odd and wait...what's that weird noise. About 11 minutes into this the sound became a clanking like the prop/spinner was falling off. I turned off the mag switch & master to shut down quickly. Got out moved the prop and found the starter not engaged but just rubbing the flywheel ring. After I was done calling the Skytec corp every name in the book (82 hrs on this one! and as I stated before on this forum I love them). I got back in again and turned the master back on. Didn't dawn on me right away what was happening but the starter was running when I threw the master switch!! I turned it on and off a couple times and this quit happening, then got out with a big screwdriver and pushed the bendix back from the flywheel, turned the mags on --hand swung and got in my flight before "winter" returned. Full 13.8V+ as soon as it started up so everything now fine in this respect.
After the flight I came to the conclusion that the remote starter solenoid must have stuck in the energized positon. Once the engine started and I moved the key to Both, the solenoid must have stuck from frost/cold/spark weld or something and held the starter engaged and running on the flywheel, causing the 10 volt reading high charge current etc and of course the expensive part a totally mangled bendix drive on my Skytec 122PM . I have removed the remote starter relay from my firewall and am replacing with a new one while the local electric motor rebuilder has a go at my starter drive(Experimental - I can do this).
Other than sharing my shitty day and the advise that when it just doesn't look/feel/smell right it probably isn't....has anyone else ever had this happen to you and is there any experience with or chance that my OFF/R/L/BOTH/START key switch was the culprit and the internals of the switch stayed connected to the start circuit even though I had turned it to both and actually all the way back to OFF and the starter would run when the master was turned on. Would hate to get my starter back on with a new remote starter relay and have this happen again if someone else on here has ever had the mag switch start postion stick I'd sure like to know. And yes I know many of you have seperate toggles/switches and a start button, but there are at least a few "reworked" panels and experimentals hanging around here.
Thanks,
Wayne
Started right away, but I had that mental feeling something wasn't right. Amp gauge jumped over to 30A and I brushed it off as the first run in quite awhile and cold. Volt gauge always needs a light tap to get it off the seat and then it's fine, but this time it only got to 10volts. Again shrudged it off as a cold instrument sticking. There I sat for almost 10 minutes letting everything warm up before heading into the snow. Now I thought I smelled something odd and wait...what's that weird noise. About 11 minutes into this the sound became a clanking like the prop/spinner was falling off. I turned off the mag switch & master to shut down quickly. Got out moved the prop and found the starter not engaged but just rubbing the flywheel ring. After I was done calling the Skytec corp every name in the book (82 hrs on this one! and as I stated before on this forum I love them). I got back in again and turned the master back on. Didn't dawn on me right away what was happening but the starter was running when I threw the master switch!! I turned it on and off a couple times and this quit happening, then got out with a big screwdriver and pushed the bendix back from the flywheel, turned the mags on --hand swung and got in my flight before "winter" returned. Full 13.8V+ as soon as it started up so everything now fine in this respect.
After the flight I came to the conclusion that the remote starter solenoid must have stuck in the energized positon. Once the engine started and I moved the key to Both, the solenoid must have stuck from frost/cold/spark weld or something and held the starter engaged and running on the flywheel, causing the 10 volt reading high charge current etc and of course the expensive part a totally mangled bendix drive on my Skytec 122PM . I have removed the remote starter relay from my firewall and am replacing with a new one while the local electric motor rebuilder has a go at my starter drive(Experimental - I can do this).
Other than sharing my shitty day and the advise that when it just doesn't look/feel/smell right it probably isn't....has anyone else ever had this happen to you and is there any experience with or chance that my OFF/R/L/BOTH/START key switch was the culprit and the internals of the switch stayed connected to the start circuit even though I had turned it to both and actually all the way back to OFF and the starter would run when the master was turned on. Would hate to get my starter back on with a new remote starter relay and have this happen again if someone else on here has ever had the mag switch start postion stick I'd sure like to know. And yes I know many of you have seperate toggles/switches and a start button, but there are at least a few "reworked" panels and experimentals hanging around here.
Thanks,
Wayne