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SuperCubber03
09-20-2003, 02:15 AM
About 4 months ago I was setting up tables for a pancake feed at the McAllister Museum of Aviation which is neighbors with Cub Crafters. As I walked out the hanger door, I saw a brand new SC with a 3ft. x 3ft. Harley emblem on the side. As I approached the airplane I noticed a wood Sensich prop and an bald eagle hood ornament on the cowl just behind the prop. If you look inside it has chrome handgrips on the stick with leather Harley seats and a silver and gold plated emblem in the panel. I went back in to tell my brother about it and when I came back out the owner was climbing in it. I asked him if he was goin flyin' and he said "Yeah, ya wanna go?" "YES!" was my immediate response and I climbed in. We flew for about an hour and did some short field work in it. I have got 2 get pictures of that thing. As soon as I do, there gettin posted here.

Fortysix12
09-20-2003, 04:44 AM
There's alot I would say but I'm not. Just,not for me.

Steve Pierce
09-20-2003, 06:53 AM
Sounds like fun. Also sounds like the pilot has been watching to much Americn Chopper and The Great Biker Build-Off.

CrossedControls
09-20-2003, 02:52 PM
It was at Osh. I have a couple of pics in the gallery
http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Petespics&page=3

Go to bottom of page.

I wonder how much extra the fringes, foot plates and Harley badges on the panel cost in money and weight.

Pete

CaptFox
09-20-2003, 06:02 PM
Sounds like fun. Also sounds like the pilot has been watching to much Americn Chopper and The Great Biker Build-Off.

Good Idea for a new TV show to revive SUPERCUBS....

"AMERICAN SUPERCUB"
Get all the Guru's to build a custom supercubs in a competition for the best!

Cubus Maximus
09-20-2003, 07:18 PM
Tim and Diggler could yell at each other just like Pauli and his dad. Mark could dis Crash's workmanship etc and we'd have an TV excellent series for the Discovery channel. :agrue:

SuperCubber03
09-20-2003, 08:38 PM
That would be a good show. To bad I don't know anyone who works with the Discovery Channel :(

Steve Pierce
09-20-2003, 09:12 PM
Yea, the argueing gets all the attention. I'd rather see more of the build process and less of the drama but I guess that's what brings in ratings. I thought a long time ago it would make a great show to rebuild a Super Cub. Anybody got any dirt on any Discovery higher-ups?

Steve Pierce
09-20-2003, 09:18 PM
Better yet lets have a short field contest on Discovery with Flagold in the Husky and some Super Cub pilots. We could invite Atlee and have the Richmonds along with all the oldSuper cub Association members. Throw in Diggler, Tim and Cubby and there oughta be more drama than you could show on prime time. Seriously you could get Cub Crafters to compete with Crosswind STOL. Give em 90 days, then they have to fly to OSH and compete in the short field competition.

SuperCubber03
09-20-2003, 09:34 PM
We should all write e-mails to the Discovery Channel and try to get them to put a show like that on the air. Who knows, maybe one of the higher ups is a SC fan.

supercub
09-20-2003, 11:15 PM
Seems like I remember the very first project that Jesse James did a few years back for Monster Garage was a Super Cub project.........when they finished...........they ended with a Husky :lol: That's the fun part of Monster Garage.........never know what those guys are going to take and ruin.




PS:...........just kidding you Husky guys.

RYAN_WINGS
02-12-2004, 11:40 PM
Back to the Harley Davidson look-alike cub...
I can't convince my wife that a Harley is just what I need to get through midlife crisis and if I just mention "I'd like to save up for a new Top Cub.." she gets furious.
How the heck did this guy convince his wife to let him buy a Topcub with Harley Davidson logos?
He must be single.....

RYAN_WINGS
02-12-2004, 11:41 PM
Back to the Harley Davidson look-alike cub...
I can't convince my wife that a Harley is just what I need to get through midlife crisis and if I just mention "I'd like to save up for a new Top Cub.." she gets furious.
How the heck did this guy convince his wife to let him buy a Topcub with Harley Davidson logos?
He must be single.....

Dave Calkins
02-13-2004, 11:55 AM
This airplane sounds about as interesting to me as a hang glider with a Honda 50 logo.

Sorry, Harley-motife Cub guy, but in my opinion, you're an idiot.!

Anyone ever heard that saying "..If I have to explain, you'd never understand.." ?

I really need an explanation on this one.......and I'll probably never understand.

Dave Calkins
02-13-2004, 12:21 PM
OK, so I went to the photo album and took a look.

It's bad, but not as bad as I had imagined.

But still, why would you do that to your airplane unless Harley-Davidson was paying you to own it and and advertise their logo and motife? Maybe they are. Maybe this guy is a HD shop owner, in which case he might write this off.

If the owner really wanted to impress someone, and I hope he's listening, I have a suggestion. Now this is going to be expensive, and a real hassle, but it will work better than his last try so........

Get a Harley. Ouch, I never thought that'd come out of my mouth! Take that Harley, the biggest dresser that you can find, and paint it Lockhaven Yellow. Put a little Cub decal on it and a lightning bolt down the fenders and on the tank. Take the electrical out of it, cause you're trying to impress me here, AND you will if you can start that PIG. Add things like simple instrumentation and simple no-frills controls. Then do some finishing touches like blackwall tires and a bit of an oil streak on the belly....Oops, guess I didn't need to mention that last one.

Then take it and drive it off a cliff somewhere.......anywhere.......with a Discovery Channel crew there to film it.

I will be impressed.

It would also impress me if a guy would wade through all the HD hype ccrraaaaapp, and realize he can be on a much better machine for less than half the money, and that his REAL friends will think well of him for having some balls and not just rolling dough into the Harley shop. WHEW

This is not a Cub/Husky rant. The Cub does what it does, and stands alone. The Harley is ALL hype.........take it or leave it.

Yes, my personal opinion......and I'd love to hear the opinions of the others here, as well.

R. JOHNSON
02-13-2004, 01:03 PM
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Cub junkie
02-13-2004, 01:11 PM
Im sure you are not interested in my opinion Caulkins but Im posting it anyway, the guy decorated his airplane the way he likes it, he didnt put a Harley sticker on your airplane. I have determined that you are a Harley hater, goooood!!! My '41 WL leaks oil just like my C-85 I love them both. I have never sold a motorcycle, I have 16 of them in my shed and four of them are Harley-Davidsons, does that make me a dumbass four times or do you think Im a dumbass anyway? In regards to the joking of a Super Cub build off, it will never happen on discovery channel,not trashy enough. I think Discovery channel hired laid off producers from the Jerry Springer show. I have never used my mute button so much since Dad started yelling at paulie.

mvivion
02-13-2004, 02:06 PM
You guys obviously have way too much money and time on your hands, if you

a) subscribe to cable TV
b) watch cable TV
c) worry about what other people do to decorate their airplanes
d) worry about what sorts of motorcycles other people ride.

For Dave Calkins:

Buy your favorite Honda, ride it for five years. Offer it for sale, and let us know what it brings.

Now, buy a Harley, any one but a Sportster (but maybe even a Sporty), ride it for five years, and offer it for sale.

Let us know what it's worth.

The new Harleys are as clean and smooth as any bike made, no oil leaks, no vibration, nice and smooth (my perspective, my last bike was a Yamaha, which was not a great bike). I figure in five years, or ten, I'll sell mine for about as much money as I have in it, while riding it all the time. Sure, I'll lose the money I could have made in interest on investments with that money, but I won't sell it for a quarter what I paid for it new.

I don't know of many other pieces of equipment that hold their value like Harleys.

But, if you want to ride a Honda, I think that is way cool, and welcome you to the enjoyment of riding.

Who gives a rat's butt what you ride or what you fly, as long as you get out and do it? And if the guy wants to hang Harley logo stuff all over his Cub, I'll let him take it up with H-D.

I do like the Harley floorboards for a rear step, though. Beats the stock loop by a bunch.

My opinion only, for what it's worth.

MTV

Cub junkie
02-13-2004, 02:10 PM
Well said Mike Vivion

j3jm
02-13-2004, 04:21 PM
So I can look forward to biker chicks hanging aroung the gas shack?

Plemmons
02-13-2004, 04:58 PM
Jim, I think they're talking about your airplane.

Steve Pierce
02-13-2004, 06:01 PM
I personally watch those shows to see some fabrication and cool stuff like that. They showed Jessie Jame's Yoder Hammer and English wheel but the drama is piss poor in my opinion. Show me technical hands on stuff not Pauly and dad acting like they are going to rip each others heads off. Hell I ought to get them to come to my shop while my Dad is here covering his fuselage. Might get the real deal.

R. JOHNSON
02-13-2004, 06:22 PM
I know what you mean Steve, enough w/ the fake drama bull, just film the building of the bike.

Big AK
02-13-2004, 07:06 PM
Any of you guys ever see one of those "Donald Duck" Schwinn bicycle's from the '50's. Had a bunch of plastic trim, a Donald head on the front, and bar grip tassles. They were a cheezy deal, but nowadays they are a collector's item due to the vintage and the rarity.

How will your HD's stand-up to the rarity test in 20 years. Do you think the HD hype will still be around then? HD is a hugely successful deal right now, but even some old-time HD riders are afraid of the near future for the company. Only time will tell. Until then, I'll spend my money and time for bike maintenance in a value-conscious manner.

Didn't anyone get a laugh out of the idea of a yellow RoadKing flying off a cliff and the mess that'd be left over at the bottom.

Sheesh. Don't you think Calkins was having fun with that?

I just hope the HD TopCub guy doesn't ever get any caribou blood on his tassles. If he did, the dog in the back seat would probably eat 'em all off. You think he lets his dog get in that Cub?

mvivion
02-13-2004, 11:11 PM
Gawd, I hope so. It'd take a true beast to deny one's best friend the opportunity to go flying.

MTV

S2D
02-13-2004, 11:52 PM
Isn't comparing a Harley to a Honda ( or whatever) kinda like comparing a Super Cub to a Cessna 172.

They're noisy, slow, uncomfortable, cold when its cold and hot when its hot, POS rag and tube rattletraps.

What kinda following could they possibly have? Buncha DA macho pilots!! :nutz:

Dave Calkins
02-14-2004, 01:59 AM
DA macho pilots. What's at?

Davidson Aviation?

Can't a guy get a laugh about that funky fringe and crap in that Top Cub.

I guess I did ask for other opinions. That was a dumb-ass thing to request!

Rookie
02-14-2004, 02:57 AM
Honda? Super Cub?

http://world.honda.com/news/2002/image/2021217a.jpg

Honda Super Cub! (http://world.honda.com/news/2002/2021217.html)

-->Aaron :lol:

Bill Rusk
02-14-2004, 08:08 AM
Looks good to me. Is it for sale? How much?

By the way anyone have an extra pencil pocket protector or calculator belt holder?

Bill :D

CrossedControls
02-14-2004, 08:42 AM
Well it looks faster than a Harley, but is it as good an investment? :wink:
Pete

Dave Calkins
02-14-2004, 12:33 PM
Pete, they'll have your head for that!

And you're hilarious................"....investment...". hahahahahahaha


By the way, I'm NOT a HD hater. I love anything that is fun and shiny and people think is cool and fun and shiny. What I don't get is why someone would want so bad to be on the "bandwagon" with a bunch of wannabees who are only there because of the "..people think is cool.." part.

I'm sick of yuppies and old doctors and lawyers walking around the road restaurant in their chaps and fringe. It's okay for them to do that, but the whole HYPE of the thing makes me recoil.

Can you HD owner/lovers explain why you'd rather pay alot to be in this "club" of POSERS than to be on some well-engineered other brand?

You vintage bike owners need not reply. I totally understand the lure of riding a '41 or a '52 or a '76. A vintage HD is all I would think of owning, probably something that I'd have to reassemble. That is the only type of HD I'd consider.

But why join the "club" when all you get is a nod from the "knob" on his sportster?That's the real question I have for this. When I ride and get a wave from people riding Harleys, I figure they're okay, because they're waving at the Jap-bike rider. When the POSER "biker" goes by and won't even nod, or sits at the stoplight revving his crappy "new" V-twin, I can't imagine any more of a jerk.

What's the reason for wnating to be in this "fraternity"?

Rob
02-14-2004, 06:55 PM
David, I'll give your question a go! First the obvious.... The Harley/Honda, Ford/Chevy, low and slow/sleek and sexy, Pitch/Power debates will never end. And second trying to convert an opinionated cubber is not possible! 8)


What I don't get is why someone would want so bad to be on the "bandwagon" with a bunch of wannabees who are only there because of the "..people think is cool.." part.


If you truly live by this you must give up your cubs, snowboards, bikes and on and on... there are wannabees in all of them. What's more...before you Can Be, you must wannabee? :lol:


I'm sick of yuppies and old doctors and lawyers walking around the road restaurant in their chaps and fringe. It's okay for them to do that, but the whole HYPE of the thing makes me recoil.


Kinda like a tricked out cub and driver pulling out of Cub Crafters :o
c'mon...even doctors and lawyers gotta play?


Can you HD owner/lovers explain why you'd rather pay alot to be in this "club" of POSERS than to be on some well-engineered other brand?

"well engineered" is really a broad brush to paint with. Opening the cycle trader I can find American V-twins represented from every decade back to the '40. on the other hand, I see japanese street bikes dating back to the early 90's! am I to believe the rice rockets are so "well engineered" that no one is offering them for sale? ....orrrr do they just have a shorter life span like all technology products ie.. computers, vcrs....and end up in the junk yard?

What part of "cruiser" type riding requires engineering and technology any ways? The whole Idea is the simplicity! There are unfortuneatly.... twin cam, fuel injected, electronic ignitioned, Harleys.. Mine are not, but maybe yours should be?


You vintage bike owners need not reply. I totally understand the lure of riding a '41 or a '52 or a '76. A vintage HD is all I would think of owning, probably something that I'd have to reassemble. That is the only type of HD I'd consider.


Ahhh what a great american thing! Bear with me a moment here... Think Autos... the 40's and 50's, Well that's all american! I can't think of any 50's car that is not cool! The 60's and 70's... can you say muscle? The 80's? We still own our 82 CJ7 Jeep , when's the last time you saw a totally trick '69 datsun b-210 :wink: My point is... this type of nostalgia is an American phenomena sp? . in 76 that harley was new... 30 years from today that '04 harley will be vintage... They were both cool new and will both be cool old. A '76 model Honda 750/four would be cool to own but the sad truth is, if you could actually get one to last that long it wouldn't be worth anything to anyone but yourself :(

I cloud go on with more... but this is long enough for a post here! sorry guys!
By the way... for the record I have been riding/racing Japanese bikes/quads since the age of 5 and I am 39 now! I have also been fortunate enough to own more than my share of "rice rockets". But when I want to cruise up to Flagstaff and take a relaxing ride on ole' rte 66....gotta tell you nothing beats the Harley.

Ohhh one more thing, If you really subscribe to the old wives tale of Harleys always being broke down and on the roadside, can you save up that end of the X-mas ham you've been pitching? All this typing's made me hungry! :wink:

Bottom line... ride what turns ya on :P

mvivion
02-14-2004, 07:23 PM
Rob,

Well said on all counts.

And, as to Calkins comments, I hate to break this to you, Dude, but if you really hate wannabes and posers, you really ought to get far, far away from the Super Cub, cause there's a lot of them there, too, just like Harleys.

Which is simply to say that they are attractive to a wide range of individuals for a wide range of reasons.

Pick yer reason, and make yerself happy.

Didn't mean to push the "rant" button. But, what the hey, it's fun,

MTV

Dave Calkins
02-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Thanks for your answers guys. Rob, for your sentimental view, and Mike, for your SC.org wannabe heads-up and your point that a wide range of individuals are attracted. You've put me in a place where I can live. Thanks.

........and I'll take my Cub white, with red trim. :) , cause that's what I like.

And the reason I'm here on SC.org is to spread good Cub info., not point out the posers. Usually a poser at this site is easy to spot. I guess he can still be a REAL Cub lover, too....

....nuff said.

Anne
02-17-2004, 11:20 AM
point out the posers

How can you tell a poser from a real Supercubber?

Anne.

FlipFlop
02-17-2004, 11:40 AM
I'm a poser...

1990 Cuby = Super Cub wannabe...

1985 145hp Yamahaha V-Max = Harley eliminator...

CrossedControls
02-17-2004, 01:23 PM
http://www.supercub.org/upload/petespics/cessna999%20.jpg

I'm a poser too, the field I fly from is 1200 ft of grass, the hanger hasn't got 'lectrics let alone the cub, and I fly for the grin because I can.

I've a 1969 Honda 750 four, best investmant I ever made, shame it handles like a pig on a pogo stick.
(yes you do get old Jap cr@p)

Daily sunshine ride, '99 Triumph Tiger 900.

What ever floats yer boat, but to do that to a cub. Not my cup of tea.
IMHO
Pete

mvivion
02-17-2004, 11:22 PM
Anne,

To answer your question frankly: Who cares who the posers are? As they used to say when I was in high school, run what ya brung. They're all great.

I just don't see any point in knocking anyone who has a passion to fly little airplanes. If they do it for the social events, great, if they do it for the challenge of stuffing the plane into a 300 foot strip, so be it, if they do it cause they like to be seen with cool looking hardware, why should I care?

I approach airplanes the same way. I used to go on about one airplane being so much better than another, but ya know, they're all really special.

Onliest thing that gets to me is someone who only flys their airplanes ten hours a year.

Those are the posers.

Or maybe they just have a life.

MTV

Dave Calkins
02-18-2004, 12:21 AM
Anne, apparently the posers are those who didn't get mentioned on SuperCubber's short list. It was in the rant and rave section. The list left like ALL of us off, except for maybe 4 guys. Sorry, no lady's made the list.

Part of me felt bad for not making the list. Part of me felt good for doing my thing (properly) and not getting noticed.

There are many great people out there doing their thing and not getting noticed for it. Some of the best may not even know that SC.org exists.

When I used the term "posers" that Mike mentioned, I was using it in reference to those who will speak-up in the forums with an air of definitiveness (?) and authority and then promptly stick their foot in their mouth as they provide improper info., etc. Sometimes they'll even resist being corrected by those who are in-the-know.

Anyway, I started the "idiot" thing about the HD TopCub as kind of a joke. Apparently in bad or improper taste. I could have made it simple by just saying it's not "my cup of tea"......But I can't post photo's like Crossed Controls can, so I wrote that idea about running a HD off a cliff instead.

Can I still use the "it's not my cup of tea" statement?

BOB HANCOCK
02-18-2004, 10:55 AM
The similarity between the Cub & the Harley is that they both leak oil!

Anne
02-18-2004, 11:01 AM
Sorry, no lady's made the list.

Sounds like one list I didn't want to make, anyway. I don't get on R&R any more because it was a real waste of time, so I didn't get the gist of this whole "poser" thing. Maybe there ought to be another list: those who are way out of it! Put that on R&R so I don't know if I made that list or not, OK? :lol:

Anyway, 5 motorcycles (2 BSAs, 2 H***s, 1 Moto Guzzi), 1 sportscar (Triumph Spitfire, red), and 1 airplane, I've just been having more fun than one person should be allowed to have. Each community I've been involved in has its share of great folks and jerks. As one guy I know said, clowns come and clowns go, but the circus goes on and on.

If this sounds like babbling, it's not. It's just chatting.

Anne.

BSEC
02-18-2004, 12:48 PM
I've been away from flying for quite some time because of work and a bum hip. Last May I had my hip replaced and decided to get back into flying. I started putting some time in a C185 as I was hoping to purchase one in the spring.

While I was getting back up to speed I spent some time flying a PA-12 on skis. What a blast!!! I decided right away I had to have a Cub. Since that time I've been lurking at SuperCub. org trying to learn a little more about these fantastic little airplanes.

Here are some of the impressions I've gathered from this group so far.

1) If you don't use your SC for work your not a real SC pilot. You're just a wannabee.

2) If you haven't been flying SC's since the Wrights pioneered powered flight you're a rookie wannabee.

3) If you divert at all from Pipers original design with your SC your a wannabee. (Unless you can justify the change for work)

4) If you fly anything besides a SC your just a bush pilot wannabee.

5) If you pay top dollar for a Cub Crafters cub your a wannabee.

I could go on and on... The point is many of the folks here seem to view themselves as elite cub drivers. Anyone not already part of the circle is guess what? Yep... A wannabee.

You can only imagine how hard I laughed when I started reading this thread where it's suggested people who ride HD are elitist wannabee's. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :roll: Many of you Cub drivers sound just like the Harley Riders.

The most amusing part of all is I prefer my HD to anything else for the same reasons I fell in love with the Cub. Simple, straightforward, no-nonsense equipment.

Thanks for the laugh folks.